Perverted Injustice? Backlash growing against NBCs "To Catch a Predator"

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: DaShen
If you actually talk to an alcoholic, or a drug user, or someone in prison... most of them are pretty normal except for their mentallity. They are selfish and they only look out for themselves. You accept them, show them how messed up their problem is, and show them a better way and they can change. If they don't change or don't reject their selfish mentallity, let the law deal with them, but don't judge every person just based on one person's ignorance.

The thing about alcoholics and drug users is they are hurting themselves. They may be affecting some loved ones but nothing akin to being a victim of sexual molestation, particularly a small child. There is no excuse. Why don't you save some of that passion for the victims?

Again... if you have a convicted child molester and you have small children, would you want that person living next to you?

How many drug users do you know? They don't just hurt themselves, believe me. Their mentallity is so selfish by the end when they hit rock bottom, that they hurt others just so that they can "hurt" themselves more.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I agree with what NBC is doing, but there is a little prejudice, but the statistics are minor.

I am not sure the real stats, but I'm quite sure men outnumber the women in reference to online preditors, but without a doubt, I'm sure women that follow this similiar behavior, exist.

So, why aren't women targetted in a sting such as this? I'm sure most of the American public is being blinded and are being brainwashed into thinking that men are the only ones taking forth in such crude acts.

I'm by no means taking up for the bad guys, but if you are going to lay down the law, then it should be equal. Or at least put forth a little effort in targetting both sexes, since women are as guilty as men in online preditorism

Regarding the women, maybe NBC needs a series called "To Catch a Teacher". :evil:

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Amused
Well, if we agree WTF are we going to argue about? :|

I like pie. j/k

Clarification, of course.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I agree with what NBC is doing, but there is a little prejudice, but the statistics are minor.

I am not sure the real stats, but I'm quite sure men outnumber the women in reference to online preditors, but without a doubt, I'm sure women that follow this similiar behavior, exist.

So, why aren't women targetted in a sting such as this? I'm sure most of the American public is being blinded and are being brainwashed into thinking that men are the only ones taking forth in such crude acts.

I'm by no means taking up for the bad guys, but if you are going to lay down the law, then it should be equal. Or at least put forth a little effort in targetting both sexes, since women are as guilty as men in online preditorism

Regarding the women, maybe NBC needs a series called "To Catch a Teacher". :evil:

Even better, "To Catch a Priest"... :evil: j/k j/k

I am so bad.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Amused
Well, if we agree WTF are we going to argue about? :|

I like pie. j/k

Clarification, of course.

You'll have to try harder. I happen to favor pie as well.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I agree with what NBC is doing, but there is a little prejudice, but the statistics are minor.

I am not sure the real stats, but I'm quite sure men outnumber the women in reference to online preditors, but without a doubt, I'm sure women that follow this similiar behavior, exist.

So, why aren't women targetted in a sting such as this? I'm sure most of the American public is being blinded and are being brainwashed into thinking that men are the only ones taking forth in such crude acts.

I'm by no means taking up for the bad guys, but if you are going to lay down the law, then it should be equal. Or at least put forth a little effort in targetting both sexes, since women are as guilty as men in online preditorism

Regarding the women, maybe NBC needs a series called "To Catch a Teacher". :evil:

I like it! :thumbsup:
You better patent that ideal immediately!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I agree with what NBC is doing, but there is a little prejudice, but the statistics are minor.

I am not sure the real stats, but I'm quite sure men outnumber the women in reference to online preditors, but without a doubt, I'm sure women that follow this similiar behavior, exist.

So, why aren't women targetted in a sting such as this? I'm sure most of the American public is being blinded and are being brainwashed into thinking that men are the only ones taking forth in such crude acts.

I'm by no means taking up for the bad guys, but if you are going to lay down the law, then it should be equal. Or at least put forth a little effort in targetting both sexes, since women are as guilty as men in online preditorism

Regarding the women, maybe NBC needs a series called "To Catch a Teacher". :evil:

Even better, "To Catch a Priest"... :evil: j/k j/k

I am so bad.

"To Catch a Pop Star"

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I agree with what NBC is doing, but there is a little prejudice, but the statistics are minor.

I am not sure the real stats, but I'm quite sure men outnumber the women in reference to online preditors, but without a doubt, I'm sure women that follow this similiar behavior, exist.

So, why aren't women targetted in a sting such as this? I'm sure most of the American public is being blinded and are being brainwashed into thinking that men are the only ones taking forth in such crude acts.

I'm by no means taking up for the bad guys, but if you are going to lay down the law, then it should be equal. Or at least put forth a little effort in targetting both sexes, since women are as guilty as men in online preditorism

Regarding the women, maybe NBC needs a series called "To Catch a Teacher". :evil:

Even better, "To Catch a Priest"... :evil: j/k j/k

I am so bad.

"To Catch a Pop Star"

R Kelly is that you?

**EDIT**
And I totally forgot about Michael Jackson.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: Raduque
Oh, and for rivan... there IS is a word for being primarily attracted to post-pubescents. Try this.

From that link... In more casual usage, however, pedophilia is often used more broadly to describe an attraction to any person younger than the legal age of consent.

Splitting hairs.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: DaShen

Different, but not that much different. They still get a thrill out of the taboo and taking away someone's innocence. Bad outlook.

Most teenagers aren't ready for something like that.

There is a marked difference between being attracted to someone who is post puberty, vs being attracted to someone who is prepubescent.

Yes there is, but the root attraction is still the same.

I do understand the significance of being attracted to a person that is not sexual primed to pass down the genetic primers compared to someone who is physically mature enough to procreate, but the mentallity is still quite similar. The physical attraction, in and of itself is different, but the mentallity is the same.

Actually, the attraction to someone who is past puberty is perfectly normal. And the only thing that stops us from carrying through with that attraction is morality and ethics.

The sexual attraction to someone prepubescent is abnormal.

So while the ethics may be similar, the attraction is far from such. What makes a post pubescent predator is a lack of ethics/morality. What makes a pedophile is an abnormal sexual attraction combined with a lack of ethics and morality.

I tend to agree with Amused here rather than DaShen. The "ethics and morality" here are a result of cultural conditioning and law, rather than anything "absolute". Other societies view things differently, as evidenced by the different age of consent laws around the world.

However, pedophilia is something totally different: Sexual attraction to a person who is not yet biologically ready for sex cannot possibly be viewed as normal in any way.

 

[chambersc]

I'm pro-NBC's position. I would argue that their tactics are getting more progressive (actually having a young actor talk to the pedos before they're arrested -- face to face), which could be a bad thing, but on the whole I like their methods.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
This show should be on every friday night. TGIF!

So sick of seeing it though.. every case seems to be presented in the same format, them showing online chats and blurred out pics... seemingly to show *us* that they have evidence against them. Umm, ok, how exciting.

This is not entertaining at all. I don't know why people continue to watch this. It's nice that the word is out (we get it already) and these people are going to get caught but... this has no place on primetime television.

Figures it's from the same network that put Fear Factor on during dinner time. Tasty.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
This show should be on every friday night. TGIF!

So sick of seeing it though.. every case seems to be presented in the same format, them showing online chats and blurred out pics... seemingly to show *us* that they have evidence against them. Umm, ok, how exciting.

This is not entertaining at all. I don't know why people continue to watch this. It's nice that the word is out (we get it already) and these people are going to get caught but... this has no place on primetime television.

Figures it's from the same network that put Fear Factor on during dinner time. Tasty.

I disagree.

I believe this should be on primetime television for a few reasons.

1. parents see that there are people out there that wish to use there children.
2. the preditors see there are real risks of getting caught.

Either way it can help curb the problem.

The internet has created a huge channel for communicating and there are those that will use it for this time of thing.

I say the more you know.......

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
This show should be on every friday night. TGIF!

 

[waggy]

i do have to agree in part. they are being branded as pedo's and child mollestors in front of millions of people BEFORE a trial.

yet they are the ones who put themselves in that situation.

either way i enjoy the show hehe.

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: waggy
i do have to agree in part. they are being branded as pedo's and child mollestors in front of millions of people BEFORE a trial.

yet they are the ones who put themselves in that situation.

either way i enjoy the show hehe.

NBC is mean.

The pedophiles deserve it.

It's a lame TV show.

Maybe it will deter pedophiles.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Jeez... Only in America could a pedophile be made out to be the victim. Good riddance.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
I've watched the show and I must say that some of the things that the decoy does comes dangerously close to entrapment.

Honestly, I agree. I think they go too far to rope people in, but at the end of the day, you're either a pedophile or you're not. You're either willing to take that step or not, regardless of entrapment issues.

As a parent I can't afford the burden of these people's rights. That's someone else's problem.

There. I said it.

 

[Dacalo]

He did society a favor by ending himself.

 

[randay]

Chris Hansen is probably a pedophile.

 

[chuckywang]

Wasn't there a CSI episode about a sexual offender who did his time, got out, and he was hated by one of the cops so much that the cop "tempted" him just so he could put him behind bars again. Absolutely disgusting plot.

 

[z42]

Originally posted by: tm37

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
This show should be on every friday night. TGIF!

So sick of seeing it though.. every case seems to be presented in the same format, them showing online chats and blurred out pics... seemingly to show *us* that they have evidence against them. Umm, ok, how exciting.

This is not entertaining at all. I don't know why people continue to watch this. It's nice that the word is out (we get it already) and these people are going to get caught but... this has no place on primetime television.

Figures it's from the same network that put Fear Factor on during dinner time. Tasty.

I disagree.

I believe this should be on primetime television for a few reasons.

1. parents see that there are people out there that wish to use there children.
2. the preditors see there are real risks of getting caught.

Either way it can help curb the problem.

The internet has created a huge channel for communicating and there are those that will use it for this time of thing.

I say the more you know.......

3. kids can see how dangerous messing around on "teh interweb" can be and take proper precautions.

Some positive and negative reinforcement can be a good thing and open doors for parents to discuss these issues with their kids.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: z42

Originally posted by: tm37

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: biggestmuff
This show should be on every friday night. TGIF!

So sick of seeing it though.. every case seems to be presented in the same format, them showing online chats and blurred out pics... seemingly to show *us* that they have evidence against them. Umm, ok, how exciting.

This is not entertaining at all. I don't know why people continue to watch this. It's nice that the word is out (we get it already) and these people are going to get caught but... this has no place on primetime television.

Figures it's from the same network that put Fear Factor on during dinner time. Tasty.

I disagree.

I believe this should be on primetime television for a few reasons.

1. parents see that there are people out there that wish to use there children.
2. the preditors see there are real risks of getting caught.

Either way it can help curb the problem.

The internet has created a huge channel for communicating and there are those that will use it for this time of thing.

I say the more you know.......

3. kids can see how dangerous messing around on "teh interweb" can be and take proper precautions.

Some positive and negative reinforcement can be a good thing and open doors for parents to discuss these issues with their kids.

I think you're giving kids too much credit. They're not going to see this and change their behavior. HOWEVER, it just might be the kick in the ASS that a lot of parents need... parents who are otherwise totally uninvolved in their kids' lives.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: Amused
Attempting to have sex with a post-puberty teen under 17 is still illegal

not in every state

 

[rbV5]

Murphy Mayor Bret Bishop told the newspaper that he hopes Murphy won't be used again as a trap for child predators.

Why do I get a strange feeling that Mayor Bishop got lucky this time? I wonder if he'd feel the same if it was the DEA cracking into some meth heads lab in one of Murphy's neighborhoods?