Personal property taxes on my business due by September 14th and

[boomerang]

I know some of you helped me, so who's going to pitch in to help me pay those taxes?

President Obama: 'If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.'

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

My business hasn't been open all that long and money is a little tight. So, it's time to step up to the plate and help me pay those taxes. You helped before, because our Dear Leader tells me that you made it happen. So dig deep and help a brother out now will you?

As an aside, I really like the firefighter analogy. It's something that even a fourth grader can understand. This is important so his base can grasp just how wonderful he is. He was lowering his intellect to appeal to them, right? He doesn't really think at this level does he?

 

[PokerGuy]

The dear leader shows his true colors once again.

If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that.

Obviously you didn't build a business, you should know by now that the government did it for you, like it does everything

.... and people wonder why conservatives think he's a socialist.

 

[IronWing]

What's the problem? He's right. Businesses get built within a societal framework. That framework gets built by private and communal action.

As to Obama's dumbing down of his speeches, which sound more retarded everyday, my theory is that one of his campaign managers told him not to use any vocabulary that didn't appear in the speeches of George W Bush.

 

[Bowfinger]

What, specifically, did Obama say that is inaccurate?

Did you educate yourself, build your own schools, train your own teachers? Did you make your own roads (for you, your customers, your suppliers), coin your own currency, create your own economy whereby your customers earn money to buy your goods and services? Did you craft your own Internet, dig your own well, develop your own utility infrastructure (again, not only for you, but also for your customers and suppliers since they are also necessary to the success of your business)? Did you grow up in an undeveloped wilderness (raised by wolves?), and have you always remained in a self-contained bubble crafted entirely by your own hands?

If the answer to any of these questions is "no", then Obama is exactly right. You are just another self-absorbed, spoiled cry baby who wants to exploit the fruits of society while demanding others pay the cost. Gotta love that wing-nut sense of entitlement.

 

[umbrella39]

Stop crying so much entitlement junkie hypocrites and try growing up while doing so. Who the hell forgot to change your diapers...

 

[zsdersw]

.... and people wonder why conservatives think he's a socialist.

They can think that all they want.. doesn't make them right, though.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Obama is such a dumb ass...what does he think he's accomplishing by making a comment like that?

 

[zsdersw]

Obama is such a dumb ass...what does he think he's accomplishing by making a comment like that?

Showing that he can be just as stupid as those who think he's a socialist.

 

[boomerang]

What, specifically, did Obama say that is inaccurate?

Did you educate yourself, build your own schools, train your own teachers? Did you make your own roads (for you, your customers, your suppliers), coin your own currency, create your own economy whereby your customers earn money to buy your goods and services? Did you craft your own Internet, dig your own well, develop your own utility infrastructure (again, not only for you, but also for your customers and suppliers since they are also necessary to the success of your business)? Did you grow up in an undeveloped wilderness (raised by wolves?), and have you always remained in a self-contained bubble crafted entirely by your own hands?

If the answer to any of these questions is "no", then Obama is exactly right. You are just another self-absorbed, spoiled cry baby who wants to exploit the fruits of society while demanding others pay the cost. Gotta love that wing-nut sense of entitlement.

Is the assumption that I received all of that for free? I'm referring to the things you referenced before you got all high and mighty and started preaching. Did I get it for free? Did I, as a business owner, only take with no giving?

The point of my post that whooshed over every progressive head so far is that I am paying for these services. I lease my space and I pay the property taxes on my portion of that structure. I pay personal property taxes on everything inside of the space. I pay sales tax, tanning tax, unemployment insurance taxes, social security taxes (the list goes on) and I even get to pay a tax on the taxes I paid.

But it's not enough. I'm evil because the assumption is that eight months open and I'm making what, obscene profits? I have not taken one nickel out of the business in any way shape or form.

It was really interesting watching the occupy movement turn from one of demanding things from the man, to the man itself. As chaos slowly took root, structure needed to be put in place and somebody had to pay for it. Those that demanded the end of capitalism learned that capitalism was needed to keep their endeavor going.

You're going to get what you wish for. The question is how long will it take before you don't like it?

Oh, and for the less bright among us, I don't really want your money.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Showing that he can be just as stupid as those who think he's a socialist.

The problem is that one of those is our President.

 

[zsdersw]

The problem is that one of those is our President.

... and will be our president even after the election this November.

 

[Bowfinger]

Obama is such a dumb ass...what does he think he's accomplishing by making a comment like that?

Here is the next paragraph for additional context:

"So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together."
​

His point was working together is the American way, not every man for himself.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

... and will be our president even after the election this November.

It's too early to tell imo. I'm thinking the election will swing on the debates.

 

[Texashiker]

There was a great teacher somewhere in your life

I can think of 1 teacher that left a lasting impression on my life, the rest can kiss my butt.

If teachers had their way, everyone would sit down, shut up, and no independent thought would be allowed.

 

[zsdersw]

It's too early to tell imo. I'm thinking the election will swing on the debates.

No matter who wins in November we'll end up electing someone who is stupid and will ruin (or fail to improve) the lives of the vast majority of Americans.

That was the point I was trying to make.

It's not too early to tell, at all.

 

[rudder]

What, specifically, did Obama say that is inaccurate?

Did you educate yourself, build your own schools, train your own teachers? Did you make your own roads (for you, your customers, your suppliers), coin your own currency, create your own economy whereby your customers earn money to buy your goods and services? Did you craft your own Internet, dig your own well, develop your own utility infrastructure (again, not only for you, but also for your customers and suppliers since they are also necessary to the success of your business)? Did you grow up in an undeveloped wilderness (raised by wolves?), and have you always remained in a self-contained bubble crafted entirely by your own hands?

If the answer to any of these questions is "no", then Obama is exactly right. You are just another self-absorbed, spoiled cry baby who wants to exploit the fruits of society while demanding others pay the cost. Gotta love that wing-nut sense of entitlement.

Do businesses not pay taxes or something? Does a business owner not pay income tax? Do employees not get paid wages?

I never realized that entrepreneurs were such leeches on society.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Here is the next paragraph for additional context:

"So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together."
​

His point was working together is the American way, not every man for himself.

And my point is that he's a stupid ass for singling out small businesses and telling them they didn't build it.

 

[Bowfinger]

Is the assumption that I received all of that for free? I'm referring to the things you referenced before you got all high and mighty and started preaching. Did I get it for free? Did I, as a business owner, only take with no giving?

Beats me. Did you? I made no such allegation, nor did Obama as far as I know, nor did anybody else in this thread. Are you maybe slashing at a straw man? Again?

The point of my post that whooshed over every progressive head so far is that I am paying for these services. I lease my space and I pay the property taxes on my portion of that structure. I pay personal property taxes on everything inside of the space. I pay sales tax, tanning tax, unemployment insurance taxes, social security taxes (the list goes on) and I even get to pay a tax on the taxes I paid.

Other than your typical, childish jab at "progressives", I'm with you so far. We succeed in America not just due to personal drive, but also because of the bountiful opportunities offered by our extraordinary physical, financial, and educational infrastructure ... largely funded by taxes. In return, we pay those taxes as our dues for having such opportunities for success. It's a great system.

But it's not enough. I'm evil because the assumption is that eight months open and I'm making what, obscene profits? I have not taken one nickel out of the business in any way shape or form.

And here's where you run off the rails into your typical dishonest, delusional attacks on the left. Nobody is saying you are evil or are making obscene profits. You pulled that straight out of your ass, presumably to launch a pointless rant about how oppressed you are. You have a business. You pay taxes. That's the way the system works. Don't like it, don't have a business. Be poor. According to people like you it's amazingly rewarding.

It was really interesting watching the occupy movement turn from one of demanding things from the man, to the man itself. As chaos slowly took root, structure needed to be put in place and somebody had to pay for it. Those that demanded the end of capitalism learned that capitalism was needed to keep their endeavor going.

You're going to get what you wish for. The question is how long will it take before you don't like it?

WTF? And now you've twisted this into yet another attack on OWS? As Spidey inadvertently proved, only a tiny fraction of OWS protestors were anti-capitalism. The vast majority, some 97% per Spidey's photo collection, were protesting corruption and greed.

But back to the point, why are we supposed to help you pay your taxes?

Oh, and for the less bright among us, I don't really want your money.

Or not. So what was your point again, or did you just decide to start the day off with a good, self-absorbed troll?

 

[fskimospy]

And my point is that he's a stupid ass for singling out small businesses and telling them they didn't build it.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the roads and bridges, not the small business.

 

[Bowfinger]

No matter who wins in November we'll end up electing someone who is stupid and will ruin (or fail to improve) the lives of the vast majority of Americans.

That was the point I was trying to make.

It's not too early to tell, at all.

Sad, but true.

 

[zsdersw]

Sad, but true.

That's the exact definition of modern-day American politics.

 

[Bowfinger]

Do businesses not pay taxes or something? Does a business owner not pay income tax? Do employees not get paid wages?

I never realized that entrepreneurs were such leeches on society.

Please clarify? Did you pull that straw man out of your own ass, or are you just piling on Boomerang's? When you come up with an honest comment, feel free to share.

 

[PokerGuy]

If teachers had their way, everyone would sit down, shut up, and no independent thought would be allowed.

And we would all be chanting our reverence for the dear leader.

 

[Bowfinger]

And my point is that he's a stupid ass for singling out small businesses and telling them they didn't build it.

Come on guys, this is simple English. It isn't that difficult to address what is actually said instead of these non-stop dishonest attacks. Obama did NOT single out small businesses. His actual words were:

"If you were successful ..." and "If you’ve got a business ..."
​

Essentially, he's talking about the not-poor, i.e., the middle-class and above. People like Boomerang are twisting this into something it isn't, using it to justify their entrenched, blind hatred for Obama and "progressives" (i.e., anybody who isn't on the right fringe).

 

[Atreus21]

How exactly does this not extend beyond small business, but to any endeavor which requires earning? If it can be said that you didn't really build a business you started, how can it be said that you really earned anything that required earning?

I've been studying for a Microsoft certification. If I get it, can it be said that I didn't earn it on the basis that I didn't create Microsoft? Or the computer? Or electrical current necessary to run the computers?