Personal attacks by a Mod

[Capt Caveman]

Can someone take care of this? This is just one of many threads. I would like to think that mods are supposed to be a little bit more mature and be held to a higher standard.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2202663&enterthread=y

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[esquared]

Let me clear a couple things up for you.

First, your thread title can be construed as a mod callout. Being a mod and posting as a member does not mean that you can pull this out at will and post a thread in PFI and somehow try to relate the two because you don't like what he has posted.

Just to be clear, if you were not, mods are allowed to post as members as long as they are not moderating in the thread. Perk was not moderating the thread.

Secondly, mods posting as members are held up the the same standards as any member here. Not more, not less. To infer such a thing is wrong on your part.

Thirdly, you claim personal insults and trolling. He didn't start the insults. I really don't feel like dissecting the thread for you chronologically, I would rather have you do it yourself and see who called who, the first name.

Fourthly, why are you picking on Perk alone? There were three or four others who posting in the same vein as Perk did, yet you failed to mention them.

Fifth, two of you, yourself included, pulled the mod reference in your posts. That too, isn't allowed. Being a mod and posting as a member is allowed. Referring to him being a mod because you don't like what is posted isn't allowed. That's baiting, and it's Rule 13 in the guidelines.

Sixth, Perk only responded back when the OP responded to his posts. It takes two to tango here. Name calling, if that what you call it in this thread, goes both ways, not just one.

Did I cover that enough for you?

 

[EagleKeeper]

There were only two posters that used the word Moderator within their posts.

You, TehMac and Odin.

It is interesting that you three are the only ones that were upset by Perknose making comments.

Perknose made a jab at Odin and Odin took the bait. Odin was the one that turned it from a banter into a semi personal attack. Each accelerated the rhetoric and then you and TehMac jumped in. The target expanded and Perknose and others took aim.

While it might be nice if every Moderator took the high road, we are human, allowed to have fun and blow off steam; just like every other member.

Ignore the title below a person's handle and judge the posts as if with a blindfold on.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
There were only two posters that used the word Moderator within their posts.

You, TehMac and Odin.

It is interesting that you three are the only ones that were upset by Perknose making comments.

Perknose made a jab at Odin and Odin took the bait. Odin was the one that turned it from a banter into a semi personal attack. Each accelerated the rhetoric and then you and TehMac jumped in. The target expanded and Perknose and others took aim.

While it might be nice if every Moderator took the high road, we are human, allowed to have fun and blow off steam; just like every other member.

Ignore the title below a person's handle and judge the posts as if with a blindfold on.

I thought he was posting in Off Topic? I thought it was for posting just about anything?

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: esquared
Let me clear a couple things up for you.

First, your thread title can be construed as a mod callout. Being a mod and posting as a member does not mean that you can pull this out at will and post a thread in PFI and somehow try to relate the two because you don't like what he has posted.

Just to be clear, if you were not, mods are allowed to post as members as long as they are not moderating in the thread. Perk was not moderating the thread.

Secondly, mods posting as members are held up the the same standards as any member here. Not more, not less. To infer such a thing is wrong on your part.

Thirdly, you claim personal insults and trolling. He didn't start the insults. I really don't feel like dissecting the thread for you chronologically, I would rather have you do it yourself and see who called who, the first name.

Fourthly, why are you picking on Perk alone? There were three or four others who posting in the same vein as Perk did, yet you failed to mention them.

Fifth, two of you, yourself included, pulled the mod reference in your posts. That too, isn't allowed. Being a mod and posting as a member is allowed. Referring to him being a mod because you don't like what is posted isn't allowed. That's baiting, and it's Rule 13 in the guidelines.

Sixth, Perk only responded back when the OP responded to his posts. It takes two to tango here. Name calling, if that what you call it in this thread, goes both ways, not just one.

Did I cover that enough for you?

Let me clear a few things up for you.

The bolded part in your post is BS. Perknose has repeatedly made personal attacks on the membership, about which I have already been in contact with Derek Wilson. Nothing has been done and the abuse continues, so don't try to pull this BS off. If everyone is held to the same standards as a member, why can I not say the same types of things that Perknose has said without me getting banned over it? Please answer that.

As far as someone singling out Perknose, well he did call someone a dick. I was banned once for calling someone's post stupid. How is that equal treatment. Again, BS.

As far as someone "baiting" the mod - that's a double standard. It's okay for mods to bait regular members, but not vice versa? How is that fair? Again, more BS.

Did I cover that enough for you?


Now to Common Courtesy:

DO NOT EVER put words in my mouth. NOWHERE in that ENTIRE thread did I EVER even post the word "moderator" or "mod". I did not refer to anyone as a mod. I treated Perknose as any old memeber and requested that he stop trolling.

Let me make this clear. I AM NOT upset about the comments that were made in the thread. WHAT I AM upset about is the fact that if I had made those SAME EXACT comments, it would be ME that would be banned. It's happened several times over far less. I think that calling someone's post "stupid" is not really even close to calling someone a "Dick" or "Arrogant Asswipe" as was done in yet ANOTHER thread where Perknose was insulting the membership.

So cut the BS, nobody buys it.

If it isn't BS, then explain why I was banned for calling someone's post stupid, yet Perknose continuously makes worse remarks towards people than that, and it's brushed off as "banter" and nothing happens. Why? What's the explanation?

 

[esquared]

I guess it's still not clear enough for you. I guess I'll try again.


You Odin, started the name calling. You said to RichUK

I don't have a monkey helpdesk job you dumbass.

You do get to say the same things Perk said. You guys went back and forth and you weren't warned. Quit your griping.

What do you not understand about baiting the mods? When a mod posts as a member, you cannot bring up his modship into the conversation when you disagree with what is being said. Some of you guys have more trouble understanding that particular rule because it keeps coming up.

Baiting the mods is an infraction and it's rule #13. In the guidelines, it says baiting the mods won't be tolerated. That seems pretty clear to me. Don't like it? Complain to Derek. He will tell you the same thing. It's the one bit of protection we have from you guys bashing us mods and then whining about it when you get caught. Want to stay vacation free? Just follow the rules. Nothing difficult in that concept is there?

No, you didn't call anyone a dick, you called RichUK a dumbass. Did you get warned or banned for that? Ah, didn't think so.

BTW, Perk called Caveman a dick after Caveman called him an asshat. Caveman didn't get a warning or a ban for that either.

Now did I cover that enough for you or do you need some more of my help here?

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: esquared
I guess it's still not clear enough for you. I guess I'll try again.


You Odin, started the name calling. You said to RichUK

I don't have a monkey helpdesk job you dumbass.

You do get to say the same things Perk said. You guys went back and forth and you weren't warned. Quit your griping.

What do you not understand about baiting the mods? When a mod posts as a member, you cannot bring up his modship into the conversation when you disagree with what is being said. Some of you guys have more trouble understanding that particular rule because it keeps coming up.

Baiting the mods is an infraction and it's rule #13. In the guidelines, it says baiting the mods won't be tolerated. That seems pretty clear to me. Don't like it? Complain to Derek. He will tell you the same thing. It's the one bit of protection we have from you guys bashing us mods and then whining about it when you get caught. Want to stay vacation free? Just follow the rules. Nothing difficult in that concept is there?

No, you didn't call anyone a dick, you called RichUK a dumbass. Did you get warned or banned for that? Ah, didn't think so.

BTW, Perk called Caveman a dick after Caveman called him an asshat. Caveman didn't get a warning or a ban for that either.

Now did I cover that enough for you or do you need some more of my help here?

You're right - I wasn't banned...THIS TIME. But it has happened several times before. That's what the issue is.

Again I said NOTHING about Perknose being a moderator. I did not bait him or anything. He freely said what he said.

I have no issue with what he said. Hell, he could call me a fucking worthless piece of shit for all I care - it's meaningless, especially coming from him.

The whole issue is that I HAVE been banned for FAR LESS than what he has done - but he continues to be able to do it. THAT is the issue. I don't give a shit what he says or how offensive he tries to be. What the PROBLEM is, is that you CLAIM to have equal treatment of all members, whether or not they are mods or not, but this is CLEARLY not the case.

I WAS banned for saying a post was stupid. THAT DID HAPPEN. I personally think it's ridiculous and I see no reason for that ban, nor would I seek to have it imposed on anyone else.

So THAT is what is upsetting - it's not the fact that he called someone a dick and an arrogant asswipe. Who the hell cares? It's the fact that you say everyone is held to the same standards when that is OBVIOUSLY not true.

Now is that a better explanation or do you require more?

 

[DivideBYZero]

I've been banned and had posts locked for 'trolling'. Two senior mods have admitted a member posted a troll post and nothing has happened.

An even hand is all that is required.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: OdiN
I WAS banned for saying a post was stupid. THAT DID HAPPEN. I personally think it's ridiculous and I see no reason for that ban, nor would I seek to have it imposed on anyone else.

You've been banned for responding negatively to a trivial and petty rant? I recall you getting banned for attacking another discussing their hobby and that was for continuing to do so after being asked to stop.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I'm disappointed with the responses here. Members on a daily basis receive warnings/vacations for trolling, personal attacks, baiting, etc yet Perknose is allowed thread after thread to troll, bait and attack members with immunity. And I haven't even brought up his continual troll attacks by pm'ing members.

Me calling him an asshat in this thread is after seeing him be the first to throw insults, troll and bait other members first in numerous threads. In this thread and in others, other members have also call him out for these attacks but nothing has ever been done.

I will be contacting Derek Wilson and Anand to see if this double standard can be removed.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: OdiN
I WAS banned for saying a post was stupid. THAT DID HAPPEN. I personally think it's ridiculous and I see no reason for that ban, nor would I seek to have it imposed on anyone else.

You've been banned for responding negatively to a trivial and petty rant? I recall you getting banned for attacking another discussing their hobby and that was for continuing to do so after being asked to stop.

You sir, are incorrect.

The thread in question was where your wife was being an attention...... *ahem*. Anyway...just another example of how things are not treated equal here. I WAS NOT banned in that case, try again. Yes I was warned, and after that I ceased. However, I pointed out that if the OP in that case WASN'T a mod and just another member, the responses which were made would be tolerated and acceptable. You would have "ownage of the year nominee" for some of that kind of crap, but since it's a mod, you guys get all pissy. If you want to play by the same rules, then freaking do it - don't say you do when it's obvious that you do not.

The entire issue here is not about what someone has said. In fact, I don't care what anyone on here says. It's a freaking off-topic internet forum. A little jabbing at one another is hardly of any concern to anyone, and if anyone is offended by it, they really should unplug the cord to their modem and stay off the internet.

What my issue has always been was the way in which I and others have been singled out and banned for ridiculously stupid and petty things, simply because several of the moderators don't like me. There is no other possible conclusion to come to with the data in hand.

If you're going to ban me for calling a post stupid, then why don't you ban Perknose for calling someone an "arrogant asswipe"? I didn't even direct my post at the actual poster, just what he posted, yet that was enough to warrant A MONTH BAN? Come on. You all tried to pan it off as a response to me being "warned multiple times about personally attacking other members" - which in itself is not true. I was warned in Geekbabe's thread (and again that was only because she is a mod) - but that's it. There were no multiple repeated warnings for personal attacks as was said. Utter BS.

All you guys have to do is get a little common sense. If you treat people differently, it will cause problems. Especially when you're making a division between members and moderators in acceptable behavior. Moderators should lead by example.

I do not want anyone to be banned - even calling someone an arrogant asswipe....who the hell cares? But if you ban someone for calling a post stupid, then allow a moderator to say worse things without action being taken, what type of example is that?

All you need to do is stop singling people out and banning people for bullshit reasons just because you have some personal grudge or just feel like it at the time or whatever.

 

[esquared]

Again, you don't understand what is going on here. No one was warned or banned or vacationed for anything that went on in that thread. What you did or didn't do before has no bearing in what we are talking about here.

You guys are twisting this around to fit what you want to believe. I am telling you, both you and Caveman started with the insults first, after that, you all participated. We either hand out vacations, warnings or we do nothing. We chose to do nothing. Now you're complaining. You cannot have it both ways.

I am pretty sure Derek has responded to your concerns already. I suggest you and Caveman contact him again for re-clarification.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: esquared
Again, you don't understand what is going on here. No one was warned or banned or vacationed for anything that went on in that thread. What you did or didn't do before has no bearing in what we are talking about here.

You guys are twisting this around to fit what you want to believe. I am telling you, both you and Caveman started with the insults first, after that, you all participated. We either hand out vacations, warnings or we do nothing. We chose to do nothing. Now you're complaining. You cannot have it both ways.

I am pretty sure Derek has responded to your concerns already. I suggest you and Caveman contact him again for re-clarification.

Yes we understand. You don't seem to. I did not start insulting first. Perknose came in and started it out of nowhere. But I don't care. I'm not asking that anyone be banned. I'm requesting that people be treated equally. Yes what has happened before DOES HAVE a bearing on this. How can you not understand that?

Let's say that I post a thread that says "Perknose the moderator sucks!". Then I get banned for it. Okay....now three days later Perknose starts a thread that says "esquared the moderator sucks!". But nothing is done to Perknose for that offense. THAT is the issue, if this hypothetical thread can be used to explain that to you. You cannot ignore the rules for one person, while applying them unduly on another and still claim that people are treated the same and held to the same rules. That's the whole issue. That is why previous instances DO HAVE a bearing on this discussion.

You're right - Derek has responded to me. With nothing. An empty inbox. His words have been heard loud and clear though - "I don't give a shit what goes on here." is what his inaction or inability to act has said. At first, he seemed to agree that Perknose was in the wrong and said that "it would be dealt with" - which it obviously never was. So there is no clarification on this subject needed.

But if this is your position on this matter, fine - I fully expect to be able to call anyone on the forums an "arrogant asswipe" or a "dick" or to be able to troll a bit in a thread or jab at people AND NOT BE BANNED OR WARNED FOR IT.

THE PROBLEM is that if I do these things, I WILL BE AND HAVE BEEN BANNED. IT IS A DOUBLE STANDARD.

Can you finally get that through your head and understand what the problem is?

If you say it isn't a problem - I'll accept it - but I will REFER to this thread in the future if anyone ever bans me for lesser offenses than Perknose, and if I am in fact banned in the future for lesser offenses, it will be just further proof that your rules are meaningless and not applied equally as you suggest they are.

Good day to you.

 

[Rio Rebel]

Just "to be clear"...

Odin, you have a long history of violating basic forum rules and being abusive to other members. You are welcome to keep whatever list you wish, and escalate whatever you wish to any authority (Anand, Derek, or whomever).

But I can tell you this: When you have a history of violations, particularly repeated violations of the same rules, you do not get treated exactly the same as everyone else. You may get a stiffer penalty than someone else who does not have such a history. If you do not think that is fair, then here's a simple solution: stop being abusive to other members. Or find another place to post. Either solution works fine for me.

We are volunteers. We absolutely do make mistakes. And we don't have time to play "catch me if you can" with members who like to push the limits and then cry foul.

 

[DerekWilson]

i get that this is a touchy subject ... lets all calm down a bit ...

i've responded to you in the past, but even when i don't have time to get back to you the discussion comes up in the cave and we hammer it out. your input does matter, and i do care what happens here.

the issue really is one of history. we take into account previous activity, vacations, warnings, etc ... we keep a detailed history on members we moderate (beyond just moving and locking threads) so that we know who should know better (because they've been warned or vacationed or had a comment edited).

if you want to call it that, we do have a double standard: we treat past offenders differently than members in good standing.

this is not without precedent as a judge in the US will do the same things when sentencing.

i try very very very hard to make sure that mods and members are treated the same. some of the limitations of fusetalk make it so that i don't have the tools i need to do so in some cases, but that will be fixed as we are moving to vB as soon as we are able.

it is tough to separate, but the reason action was taken against you in the past is because of your past action before that.

if we didn't give you proper warning then i do apologize, but it doesn't change the fact that you have a history of breaking or bending the rules.

i would favor doing less 9 times out of 10, but we are still working toward a balance. it's a process that is still being refined. and with better forum tools i think we'll have a lot more success after we move away from fusetalk.

thanks,

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
Just "to be clear"...

Odin, you have a long history of violating basic forum rules and being abusive to other members. You are welcome to keep whatever list you wish, and escalate whatever you wish to any authority (Anand, Derek, or whomever).

But I can tell you this: When you have a history of violations, particularly repeated violations of the same rules, you do not get treated exactly the same as everyone else. You may get a stiffer penalty than someone else who does not have such a history. If you do not think that is fair, then here's a simple solution: stop being abusive to other members. Or find another place to post. Either solution works fine for me.

We are volunteers. We absolutely do make mistakes. And we don't have time to play "catch me if you can" with members who like to push the limits and then cry foul.

The problem is that most of my "history" is utter BS. I have not been abusive. I can only recal ONE instance where I have been banned for being "abusive" and that was for calling someones post stupid. I don't know what kind of records you keep, but the mods who don't like me surely can enter whatever the hell reason they want.

Hell, most of the times I've been banned there were no reasons given, or cryptic responses of "YOU KNOW WHY!", which helps nobody.

Most of the times I've been banned were for "mod call outs" which, until recently was never really defined to me or anyone - and again never defined in any rules anywhere.

I appreciate that you are volunteers. I have moderated a large forum before so I know what it's like, and perhaps that experience is why I get upset at some of the things I see here.

Most of my problems were before a lot of the changes here, when things were a lot worse - and that's sullied my record because I'm very vocal about things which some didn't like it. If this is cause for harsher treatment, then so be it, but that will not change who I am. I will still be vocal about things I disagree with. A lot has changed since that time, and one would wonder if anything would have changed at all if everyone would have just ignored everything that went on.

The problem is that it makes it really hard to contribute here when you get banned for trivial, petty things.

I've spent a lot of time helping people on here - back when I first joined in the hardware forums, more recently in the digital camera forum, and I also have helped random people with photoshop projects.

I am not trying to stir up trouble, but it greatly upsets me when I see the different treatment that goes on, and my personality doesn't just have me sit back and ignore it. I am simply asking for more equal treatment. I don't think I should have been given a MONTH ban for calling a post stupid. Hell I don't think anyone should be banned at all for that, or even warned. It's trivial and a bit of "banter" as you guys like to call it. I didn't go after someone and really attack them personally there - if I wanted to it would be very obvious.

You guys push me, and I push back. That's just how I am. Sure it's caused me problems, but oh well. What you may fail to notice is that I have NEVER complained for the few bans which were actually deserved, vs. random petty or unexplainable things. But the minute I feel treated unfairly, I'll let you know about it and that's where we butt heads.

Hopefully this gives you a perspective of where I'm coming from.

 

[killster1]

wow classic.. ive actually got a week ban for asking a mod if i could msg them or if it was against the rules.. (tried to sell gillbot cpu's for very cheap) instead of selling him cpu's another mod says i was baiting mod and gives me ban..



(esqured gave me a warning for msging him) / me laughs.. also got a warning for posting 5 posts within 1 hour! (was told i had previous warning but when asked what the previous warning said i get no response.. )

reason i msged esquared was because people could insult me but then when i replied esqured deleted my posts.. (why not delete all the insults if your deleting posts?)

people loveeeeeeeee to jump to conclusions and love even more to flex power for nothing more than a few questions.. seriously msging a mod against the rules? posting more than 5 posts in a hour against the rules? hahahahahah only one solution.. move on and try to stay away from the dictator mods..


if it was me id ask for mods to stay out of my thread especially if they where going to post stuff like "your thread is fail" sounds like hes not got laid in 30 years

Seems you didn't learn your lesson, see you in 2 weeks this time
bsobel

 

[DerekWilson]

::EDIT:: i posted this before i saw your most recent post -- i can clarify things for you more privately if you would like.

btw, odin, here's a rundown of our notes on you.

... the actual violations have been removed with our other notes like what mod took the action. but this (as other mods have said) is the reason we are more heavy handed with you than with others.

most members have either no notes or one or two items.

i hope it helps explain things a bit better.

10/16/05 - 1 week
2/07/2006 1 week
3/23/2006 1 week
5/31/2006 1 week
7/14/06 - 1 week
1/21/08 - 1 Wk
3/14/08 - Warned
3/23/08 1 week.
3/29/08 - One month
05/09/08 Warned
5/24/08 - Warned
6/09/08 - 1 wk
6/17/08 - 2 wks

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: DerekWilson
i get that this is a touchy subject ... lets all calm down a bit ...

i've responded to you in the past, but even when i don't have time to get back to you the discussion comes up in the cave and we hammer it out. your input does matter, and i do care what happens here.

the issue really is one of history. we take into account previous activity, vacations, warnings, etc ... we keep a detailed history on members we moderate (beyond just moving and locking threads) so that we know who should know better (because they've been warned or vacationed or had a comment edited).

if you want to call it that, we do have a double standard: we treat past offenders differently than members in good standing.

this is not without precedent as a judge in the US will do the same things when sentencing.

i try very very very hard to make sure that mods and members are treated the same. some of the limitations of fusetalk make it so that i don't have the tools i need to do so in some cases, but that will be fixed as we are moving to vB as soon as we are able.

it is tough to separate, but the reason action was taken against you in the past is because of your past action before that.

if we didn't give you proper warning then i do apologize, but it doesn't change the fact that you have a history of breaking or bending the rules.

i would favor doing less 9 times out of 10, but we are still working toward a balance. it's a process that is still being refined. and with better forum tools i think we'll have a lot more success after we move away from fusetalk.

thanks,

See but the issue that I've tried to tell you about is that so much of that history is crap. Before all the changes were made around here I was banned for no reason. No reason was ever given. I scoured through all my posts during that time. No comments were edited in. No explanation. I once got a reply of "You know why." and left at that. HUH? Sometimes there were not even any locked threads which I psoted in to even attempt to explain some semblance of reason. Because of all of that, I had this "history" which has apparently affected me now and caused further issues. I tried to get explanations to figure out what the problem was, but nothing. How can anyone fix a problem if you refuse to tell them about it?

 

[killster1]

i wonder if derek even read the mods posts? who in their right mind would think its ok for anyone to say that stuff.. let alone mod.. calling people dick and saying the thread is fail over and over? how about this quote.. "Go back to your cave, Private Erectus! "

very good example of how mods are treated wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy diff..

i dont care if you have 20 bans in past you should not have to get insulted like that from "MODS" when if you say anything remotely insulting your posts get deleted or you get ban.. hell my post was not insulting just was funny and i got a week ban..

 

[OdiN]

But as I've said, the "history" doesn't tell the story.

10/16/05 - 1 week
2/07/2006 1 week
3/23/2006 1 week
5/31/2006 1 week
7/14/06 - 1 week

Anything before this year is crap. Maybe one was actually valid during that period. The rest I couldn't even tell you the reason becuase nobody would ever give one. Who knows what reasons were put in or what posts were edited or what even happened.

1/21/08 - 1 Wk - "Mod call out" BS. The "call out" was that I edited a post and mentioned that I edited it because a mod wanted me to. I didn't name any mod. I have seen others do the same thing (edit saying a mod asked them to) and they were not banned. Unequal treatment and this is what really started a lot of crap. I began to see many similar things where treatment was contrary to what was stated. I got upset...damn right I got upset, and so started my trip of pointing out the flaws to you, be damned what you did because I wasn't going to be silenced just so you could shove things under the rug.

3/14/08 - Warned - This is the geekbabe thread and the warning was issued only because the OP was a mod. If it was a regular memeber, there would have been no warning, or shouldn't have been. I have seen plenty of threads with responses even worse than the ones on those and they were considered "ownage of the year" and whatever, no warnings, etc. Again, unequal treatment.

3/23/08 1 week. - I believe this was because I posted in forum issues WHICH YOU TOLD ME TO DO, and that eventually resulted in this. I have no PM's for this. I have not deleted any.

3/29/08 - One month - A MONTH for calling a post stupid? Crazy talk. This inflamed the situation even worse and caused me to become even more vocal which resulted in further bans - one would think I could get my point acrossed, but I don't think it's happened.

05/09/08 Warned - There are no warnings in my PM's for whatever this is.

5/24/08 - Warned - there are no warnings in my PM's for whatever this is.

6/09/08 - 1 wk - Apparently having fun is bad. Bumped some old threads...so what? Okay...maybe deserved....so that's like 2 now?

6/17/08 - 2 wks - Same issue as what is in here - I got upset about Perknose being able to do worse than what I have been banned for. "mod call out" but you give me no choice of what to do. If I post about it in forum issues, it's just deleted. If I email you, it's just ignored. What else is one to do?

 

[OdiN]

Oh and in all these instances you've posted - most are mod call out or related things.

The repeated assertion that I have been abusive to members over and over again is not supported here at all. What warned ONCE for being "abusive" and that was again only because the OP was a mod that it happened? Where's this continual, habitual abusiveness you all keep ragging on?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: OdiN
3/14/08 - Warned - This is the geekbabe thread and the warning was issued only because the OP was a mod. If it was a regular memeber, there would have been no warning, or shouldn't have been. I have seen plenty of threads with responses even worse than the ones on those and they were considered "ownage of the year" and whatever, no warnings, etc. Again, unequal treatment.

FYI you poor little victim she wasn't a Mod by then and had done what any other member would do when being harassed by a troll. PM a Moderator and ask them to intervene. Since I'm her husband and it would obviously be a conflict of interest I stayed totally out of it and another Mod did what any responsible Mod would do, warned you to back off.

 

[killster1]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: OdiN
3/14/08 - Warned - This is the geekbabe thread and the warning was issued only because the OP was a mod. If it was a regular memeber, there would have been no warning, or shouldn't have been. I have seen plenty of threads with responses even worse than the ones on those and they were considered "ownage of the year" and whatever, no warnings, etc. Again, unequal treatment.

FYI you poor little victim she wasn't a Mod by then and had done what any other member would do when being harassed by a troll. PM a Moderator and ask them to intervene. Since I'm her husband and it would obviously be a conflict of interest I stayed totally out of it and another Mod did what any responsible Mod would do, warned you to back off. Of course you got all butt hurt about it and whined about unfair treatment but that's what sociopaths with victim mentalities do.

wish i knew what he said to your wife.. you make it sound like a huge deal calling him a sociopath a troll and referring to his complaining as "butt hurt"

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: OdiN
3/14/08 - Warned - This is the geekbabe thread and the warning was issued only because the OP was a mod. If it was a regular memeber, there would have been no warning, or shouldn't have been. I have seen plenty of threads with responses even worse than the ones on those and they were considered "ownage of the year" and whatever, no warnings, etc. Again, unequal treatment.

FYI you poor little victim she wasn't a Mod by then and had done what any other member would do when being harassed by a troll. PM a Moderator and ask them to intervene. Since I'm her husband and it would obviously be a conflict of interest I stayed totally out of it and another Mod did what any responsible Mod would do, warned you to back off.

No, FYI she was a mod. It said so right under her name.

Explain why I have seen so many threads which had similar responses to people's posts turn up as "ownage of the year nominees" and everyone gets in on them and nobody seems to care about the OP then, but only when a mod is the OP does something all of a sudden change from "having some fun at the expense of an OP" to the OP being "harassed by a troll".

And if I was harassing the OP - why is it okay for Perknose to come into my thread and harass me? It's just more of the double standard. Thanks for illustrating my point.