Perry Stumbles at latest GOP Debate

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IndyColtsFan

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Didn't spidey bet someone Perry would become President?

He did make a bet about the election, but I thought it was just that Obama wouldn't get re-elected. I HAVE seen Spidey's quote about Perry ("Perry WILL be the next president" or something similar) in a sig on here, so who knows.
 

NFS4

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LOL, even Yelp is making fun of him :)

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xBiffx

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I thought he did an excellent job. Of course I also masturbate with razor blades. Self mutilationists unite! ;)
 

Doppel

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He does this all the time. he's basically another Bush. he has zero chance of winning nomination. None AT ALL. Zero, zilch nada.
 

xBiffx

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He does this all the time. he's basically another Bush. he has zero chance of winning nomination. None AT ALL. Zero, zilch nada.

As was the case before this self inflicted wound. He was a flavor of the month, nothing more.
 

Aegeon

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A little easier to remember 50 states.
Of course as noted, no-one could sanely argue the President didn't know there were 50 states if you look at the original context.

(If you look at the original context its extremely clear Obama meant to say 47 and misspoke and said 57, with the 47 number being completely accurate in the context he said it.)

This error by Perry is in fact extremely serious in that before a prospective supposedly serious Presidential candidate takes the very serious step of advocating eliminating which is one of only 15 governmental Departments with a cabinet level head, you would think he would make sure he has a really extensive degree of knowledge about all sorts of details about that agency, let alone be able to immediately come up with its name if asked.
 
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cubby1223

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xBiffx

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Of course as noted, no-one could sanely argue the President didn't know there were 50 states if you look at the original context.

(If you look at the original context its extremely clear Obama meant to say 47 and misspoke and said 57, with the 47 number being completely accurate in the context he said it.)

This error by Perry is in fact extremely serious in that before a prospective supposedly serious Presidential candidate takes the very serious step of advocating eliminating which is one of only 15 governmental Departments with a cabinet level head, you would think he would make sure he has a really extensive degree of knowledge about all sorts of details about that agency, let alone be able to immediately come up with its name if asked.

Your partisanship is showing. Both of these were misspeaks, mistakes, brainfarts, etc. To try and make either one a serious issue is silly partisanship hackery. You are being intellectually dishonest, at best.
 

Aegeon

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My take is, I'm not interested in judging candidates based on their memorization skills.
This isn't about knowing a name, its about having a clue about what the 3 agencies you are suggesting eliminating actually are.

If Perry about said "Energy Department" instead of department of energy, or even "energy something" after a couple tries I would not view this as such serious issue, this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge about the policies he is advocating.
 

xBiffx

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This isn't about knowing a name, its about having a clue about what the 3 agencies you are suggesting eliminating actually are.

If Perry about said "Energy Department" instead of department of energy, or even "energy something" after a couple tries I would not view this as such serious issue, this shows a fundamental lack of knowledge about the policies he is advocating.

Or simply a memory lapse or a brain fart. Guess you never suffered from one, luck you.
 

Aegeon

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Your partisanship is showing. Both of these were misspeaks, mistakes, brainfarts, etc. To try and make either one a serious issue is silly partisanship hackery. You are being intellectually dishonest, at best.
Your being extremely unreasonable by suggesting they are at all comparable. One was a simply outright misspeak which did not truly suggest a lack of knowledge at all when looked at in context.

Perry's by contrast clearly is quite serious because it makes it clear he really has little knowledge about the agencies he is advocating outright eliminating, and suggests someone else came up with the list without significant involvement in the decision at all on his part. (Which is a very major policy proposal if he actually goes through with it, especially since the Department of Energy is only one of 15 governmental Department with a Cabinet level head.)

I would view the situation very differently if Perry could have at least said something along the lines of "its something about energy," after the first couple of tries at the name. This would have shown he at least knew what the agency he was advocating cutting was involved with. The fact he was unable to do that during the debate for the length of time demonstrated clearly shows the issue here was not merely being able to remember the official name of the agency. (Energy related issues are a basic function of the agency, and he didn't give any impression about being able to remember any of the agency's related major functions either.)
 
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sportage

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I don't get this ongoing republican debate thing. Nothing new or life changing is being put forth, it’s just all about seeing who trips up this time. It’s like the drunk uncle at a wedding, sooner or later someone just has to tell them to SHUT THE HELL UP!

The few people tuning in are doing so just to watch the circus of the insane.
Like that old religious TV show Tammy Faye and Jim Baker. It was fun to watch because it was so ridiculous and comical. Always left you with that WTF was THAT feeling.
Talk about self destruction of a political party... ka-BOOM! :D
 

Aegeon

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Or simply a memory lapse or a brain fart. Guess you never suffered from one, luck you.
Its not the same thing.

Again, Perry was not able to say "its something about energy", or some other comment such as about how the head of agency was Asian or how the agency was involved with nuclear energy, which would make it apparent the problem basically merely coming up with the agency name.

The failure was not simply about being unable to come up with the name, but all the huge amount of information about the agency which should easily immediately come to mind if he was really involved with the process of after careful review concluding the department needed to be eliminated. (At a minimum that knowledge should have let him say that the department had something to do with energy or electrical power.)
 

xBiffx

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Your being extremely unreasonable by suggesting they are at all comparable. One was a simply outright misspeak which did not truly suggest a lack of knowledge at all when looked at in context.

Perry's by contrast clearly is quite serious because it makes it clear he really has little knowledge about the agencies he is advocating outright eliminating, and suggests someone else came up with the list without significant involvement in the decision at all on his part. (Which is a very major policy proposal if he actually goes through with it, especially since the Department of Energy is only one of 15 governmental Department with a Cabinet level head.)

I would view the situation very differently if Perry could have at least said something along the lines of "its something about energy," after the couple of tries at the name. This would have shown he at least knew what the agency he was advocating cutting was involved with. The fact he was unable to do that during the debate for the length of time demonstrated clearly shows the issue here was not merely being able to remember the official name of the agency. (Energy related issues are a basic function of the agency, and he didn't give any impression about being able to remember any of the agency's related major functions either.)

You are being intentionally obtuse now. Apparently you never have forgotten anything. There is no reasoning with you.
 

dali71

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My question is why does he want to be President of the United States when he was threatening to succeed from the Union??? Kind of odd indeed. :D

I'd be willing to bet that even Perry is smart enough to properly spell "secede". You, on the other hand...
 

soundforbjt

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To quote the fella in my avatar: "If at first you don't suck seed, keep on suckin' till you do suck-seed." How he that got by the censors back then still amazes me.
 

Aegeon

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You are being intentionally obtuse now. Apparently you never have forgotten anything. There is no reasoning with you.
The point is that this not about forgetting one thing if he actually had been involved in carefully making the decision to completely eliminate the agency. Its about suddenly being being unable to remember hundreds (if not thousands) of things which would have allowed him to at least say "its the Department involved with energy" or something similar after the first couple of tries to come up with the agency name. If this is what actually happened, that suggests Perry actually has alzheimers or some other serious medical issue rather than being a typical moment of forgetfulness.
 
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Nebor

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I sorta like Perry, but the fact that he couldn't remember the name of the agency he wants to eliminate is damning. He should be able to remember it JUST BY the reasons that he holds for eliminating it! People saying this is a brain fart or "he forgot" are kidding themselves. This is a man advocating someone elses' policies, and doing a poor job of it.