Performance difference bettwen GeForce2 PRO 64 MB MX400 vs. Radeon LE 32 MB DDR

[sirpado]

I have geforce 2 Pro (64mb), but i need a card with dvi for my new monitor. the geforce 2 definitely suited by needs in terms of games( i am not a huge gamer). how would the radeon le 32 mb ddr compare to this card

 

[sirpado]

o yea, this is for use in a mac lcd( i have a converter)

 

[kylebisme]

well thats kind of a tricky question. first of is the fact that your title is confuseing, its it a pro or an mx? there is no such thing as a pro mx and there there is a lot of difference between the two. as for haveing a pro and going to a radion le, its going to be a defenate step step down, and an mx400 is even worse. then again im speaking from pc knowlage here and only assumeing that the same aplys for a mac.

 

[AnAndAustin]

I take it you are using a PC with a Mac display, correct? Anyway as said there is no GF2 Pro MX400, is it a mis-leadingly named Gainward? They are notorious for this, their GF2Pro is called 'GF2 TI 450'! In any case a RadLE will perf worse than a GF4MX400 for most apps, but not hugely IIRC. To be honest I'd rec a GF4MX, Rad7500 or Rad9000 cards as these are all low priced, HUGELY faster and nearly all of them come with digital DVI too!

 

[Woodchuck2000]

A Radeon LE has no T&L unit for a start, so that'll cripple DX7 performance. It's simply not designed to play games at all and will be beaten comfortably by any GF2, MX or otherwise.

 

[tenoc]

A Radeon le is easily upgraded to a Radeon DDR. Anand's how-to here.

This makes it somewhat faster than a GF2MX400 as seen here.

 

[BFG10K]

As has been pointed out already your title is a bit misleading.

If you have a GF2 Pro it'll cane the Radeon LE across the board, except in anisotropic filtering performance.
If you have a GF2 MX400 it'll beat the Radeon LE in fillrate limited situations while the Radeon LE will win in memory bandwidth limited situations.

A Radeon LE has no T&L unit for a start, so that'll cripple DX7 performance.

False. The Radeon LE is exactly like a Radeon 32 MB DDR except it's clocked at 148/148 (IIRC) and has Hyper-Z disabled in Direct3D via software (which can be enabled). The Radeon VE/7000 has no T&L unit.

 

[rogue1979]

BFG10K is right on on his hardware facts. Benchmarks fully support his post. However, benchmarks can be misleading, especially when dealing with anisotropic filtering and FSAA performance. I have both a Radeon 32MB DDR and a Geforce Pro 450 running on a couple of machines. Niether card does real well at 1280 x 1024 and above, so I use 1024 x 768 and FSAA. With FSAA anisotropic filtering keeps things really clear. The Geforce takes a pretty big performance hit, the Radeon much less. Using the catalyst 9050 (much faster than any other ATI driver) HSR is fully supported, while Nvidia doesn't allow this feature on a Geforce2 chipset. In my real world gaming tests, the performance is very close, often the Geforce Pro spikes with much higher framerates, but without HSR, complex graphics often slow it down below the Radeon 32MB DDR performance. So it is a toss up in my humble opinion, but strictly looking at benchmark data the Geforce Pro appears to be way ahead. In favor of the Radeon 32MB DDR is the low price of $38 vs. $59 for the Geforce2 Ti on pricewatch.
For $9 more you can get a Radeon 9000, so a Geforce2 doesn't make much sense anymore.