Performance diff between Celery 1.1GHz & PIII 1GHz

Jerboy

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I'm confused. I was thinking of getting a Celery 1.1GHz, but someone just told me 1GHz PIII1000(100FSB) is as fast as Celery OC'ed to 1300.

Celery can be had for $130 including slotket

P III 1000 socket 370 is about $140 and I need slotket

P III 1000 slot1 is about $200

I would think theres no or little difference between Intel factory made slot 1 and socket 370 slotketed to slot 1.

Whats the difference between Celery and PIII and what could PIII do that Celery couldn't?

 

oldfart

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PIII will out perform Celery due to the increased cache size and performance (8 way Vs 4 way). Are you looking @ a 133 MHz PIII or 100? That also makes a diff if your mobo supports it.
 

sep

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Intel's System Marks 2001 shows the P3-1G (100FSB) at 108 and the Cel-1GHz at 79. This is due to the increased cache. The cel would be a good chioce for you as this looks like a backup system and you can keep the cost down. Also, games will not take advantage of the larger cache as if desktop applicatons would. I know the P3-1GHz (100FSB) slot1 stinks at OCing. You might be able to push the cel higher.

I have the same board you do. While attempting to OC my cpu I fried the ata66 controller. Wish there was a way to disable this controler with disabling the ATA33 controller.
 

boyRacer

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<< I'm confused. I was thinking of getting a Celery 1.1GHz, but someone just told me 1GHz PIII1000(100FSB) is as fast as Celery OC'ed to 1300. >>



Yup. I say go with the P3. The slot is so damn expensive because it's getting rare. But P3 1GHz sucks at overclocking. You can probably get the Celeron to 1300 tops... but it would be almost, if not as fast, as a 1GHz P3...but the catch is its overclocked.
 

rogue1979

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I am not so sure about the 8-way vs. the 4-way associative L2 cache with a Celeron that has cDO stepping. The BE6-II has a cache latency setting in the Bios. I have pushed many P3 cores through this board at the number 1 setting (fastest), while all Celerons can only take a 5 setting before automatically disabling the L2 cache altogether. My wife's 800 Celeron takes the 1 setting for the L2 cache latency just like any P3 core. I am not sure what this means, I suspect the L2 cache is the same except for the 128k vs the 256k. Anyhow she has it clocked at 1104MHz and it benchmarked the same her old Duron 600@1020MHz, pretty impressive for any celeron. The point I am trying to make is that a cDO Celeron on a 133MHz fsb get's a tremendous boost, I would estimate it is only about 100-150MHz behind a P3 clocked at the same speed. Now it is only $41 on pricewatch, you can't get a better socket 370 bang for the buck. Every single 800 I have seen has hit the 133MHz fsb mark, it looks as easy as the old 566@850 overclock. So I wouldn't get a celeron 1GHz or 1.1GHz, they are running on a 100MHz fsb without much headroom for overclocking.