Perfect example how people who point out racism are the real problem

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I LOOOOOOOOOVE reading articles of one-sided points of views. There is absolutely no possible way that there may be different points of views of the events that occurred. Nope... Slam dunk.

I mean, I'm sure they just handed the employees racial skin color guides to tell them which ones to dismiss based on skin color.... And when they dismissed them the employee said "Sorry we don't serve darkies her---- I mean, sorry, our kitchen is closed and can't make anymore food at the moment"
 

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I LOOOOOOOOOVE reading articles of one-sided points of views. There is absolutely no possible way that there may be different points of views of the events that occurred. Nope... Slam dunk.

Google is your friend but since you're a lazy fuck..

https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/buffalo-wild-wings-racial-discrimination-lawsuit

https://www.theroot.com/lawsuit-alleges-buffalo-wild-wings-managers-gave-the-gr-1834943942

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article230667394.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/buffa...said-its-ok-to-refuse-black-customers-lawsuit
 

UglyCasanova

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Anybody who has ever waited tables is going to have a very certain opinion on this. Just google it. Ebony does articles on it. There’s studies etc that show it. It’s not ok to serve them any differently but to pretend it’s not real is naive.
 

umbrella39

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I've come to find that these threads are like tossing Chum into a pool of racist sharks.... Just watch the almost immediately triggered socks that will be tripping over themselves to get their 2 cents in!
 
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I guess you missed that part where s0me0nesmind1 is impervious to facts? :p

Or the part where he doesn't suck Russian dick all day long... Seriously he's on ignore so I had to click through and as expected showed his race card on cue...
 

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Anybody who has ever waited tables is going to have a very certain opinion on this. Just google it. Ebony does articles on it. There’s studies etc that show it. It’s not ok to serve them any differently but to pretend it’s not real is naive.

Did it for years and you are full of shit.. Poor people tip like shit. Assholes tip like shit. Color doesn't tip...

Your posting history and this post of your proves beyond a shadow of a doubt who you are when not pretend concern trolling... Come out if the closet already...
 

BonzaiDuck

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lol. Over your head.

Multiple points of view isn't different websites with the same article detective dipshit.
This isn't a matter of "multiple points of view" from which you get a smorgasbord to make conclusions. Jury trials get two points of view, and only one prevails.

You have the same news story reported by multiple sources. Some of the issues were moving through a courtroom process. There was corroboration from fellow employees.

What we've discovered in an Age of Obama and afterward is a large, foul and disgusting streak of racism in American culture -- a streak we thought had diminished and gone away by the 1980s.

IF there were "other facts" that put a different spin on the story -- and the more facts the better -- someone would have picked up the scent and published them.

Among the wide variety of Americans who see the Racist Underbelly for what it is, most subscribe to "Creative Non-Violence" in meeting it head on, following the example and teachings of Martin Luther King.

Frankly, giving Dr. King his due, I prefer the approach of John Brown. As a so-called "Caucasian", I have vivid violent scenarios in my mind -- swords at Lawrence KS, the Battle of Black Jack and other historical examples feeding them.

Show your racism in my presence when I'm out in public -- I can't tell what I might be provoked to do. Bash you over the head with a metal shopping cart, perhaps? Or just cause your plastic surgeon to weep for a week?
 
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UglyCasanova

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Did it for years and you are full of shit.. Poor people tip like shit. Assholes tip like shit. Color doesn't tip...

Your posting history and this post of your proves beyond a shadow of a doubt who you are when not pretend concern trolling... Come out if the closet already...


I’ll find you some links later. The black people that I waited with admitted just as much, it’s a cultural thing. Yes poor people tip worse but yes there is some sort of ingrained culture in the black community to where they tip less. Not all the time obviously, but broadly speaking.
 

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I’ll find you some links later. The black people that I waited with admitted just as much, it’s a cultural thing. Yes poor people tip worse but yes there is some sort of ingrained culture in the black community to where they tip less. Not all the time obviously, but broadly speaking.

I saw the thread and I knew that you'd be in for this, Ugly...lol! As usual with you it's not the whites that are at fault. Excuses are like assholes and you looooove excuses. Specifically, racist white excuses.

This is in Kansas? I'm not suprised one bit.
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...tipping/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4f1d252d0ba3

However, studies have consistently observed a reliable black-white tipping difference even after controlling for consumers’ socioeconomic status, including income and education, and after controlling for perceptions of service quality. This race difference in tipping is also observed regardless of whether the server is white or black.


https://scholarship.sha.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1104&context=articles

Data from a national telephone survey revealed four general patterns in the
tipping behaviors of Blacks and Whites. First, Blacks appear more likely than Whites to stiff commonly encountered service providers, but not less commonly encountered ones. Second, Blacks appear more likely than Whites to leave flat tip amounts to service providers who are commonly tipped a percentage of the bill, but not to service providers who are more rarely tipped a percentage of the bill. Third, black percentage tippers leave a smaller average percentage of the bill than white percentage tippers across many service contexts. Finally, black flat tippers leave larger average dollar tips than white flat tippers across many service contexts. The theoretical and practical implications of these findings are briefly discussed.


And finally

https://www.ebony.com/news/are-black-people-really-bad-tippers-981/

If there was a scale listing every demographic from best to worst, we (Blacks) would rate last, and this stereotype seems to transcend class, station, and situation. If personal anecdote is any indication, the stereotype may be rooted in truth. I’ve witnessed numerous friends, family, and colleagues leave substandard tips when both the food and the service were on point, including the time a friend with a six figure income left a $1 tip on a $70 meal (and this Negro had the nerve to leave a smiley face next to the $1). While that’s just one (extreme) example, I’d wager that a quick survey of bartenders, waitresses, and others in the service industry would tell you that behavior is more the norm than the exception.
 

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As a former food service employee, I confirm racism was alive and well. Some people were targeted more than others.
 
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I've come to find that these threads are like tossing Chum into a pool of racist sharks.... Just watch the almost immediately triggered socks that will be tripping over themselves to get their 2 cents in!

Nah, they're usually busy looking for a counter-story they can try to spin to hold up their both sides bullshit argument to try and prop up their bigotry. They typically don't post a lot in threads about blatant racism (that even they can't defend) that others make except when they're trying to divert away from some shitshow of Republicans (ugly might pop in to say that he doesn't believe it but you can often tell by his feckless posting that he really isn't buying his own lies).

Hmm, let's see what Turmp's been up to?
 

DarthKyrie

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I'm racist against white people (ignore the fact that I'm a pasty white Irish guy that Hitler and Goebbels would have salivated over) according to the Reichwing all because I want everyone to be treated as equals. I have been told by people that I know that I am a traitor to my race (which I find funny since we are all homo sapien sapiens and the only difference between us all are superficial appearance based aspects). Hell, I even have no problem with treating people with turnip IQ's as equals as long as they don't speak to me.
 
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If the allegations in the lawsuit are true, and I do believe him, then this gentleman should win the lawsuit. My guess is that the company’s internal investigation will find merit in his allegations and settle out of court.

As far as the articles on the internet, they all source back to the original Kansas City Star article and the other employees corroboration is a Facebook post with someone else posting who claims they are/were an employee there. That Facebook link is no longer valid.

There is no doubt racism against black and brown people is still rampant in the US, especially in the South.
 

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I'm racist against white people (ignore the fact that I'm a pasty white Irish guy that Hitler and Goebbels would have salivated over) according to the Reichwing all because I want everyone to be treated as equals. I have been told by people that I know that I am a traitor to my race (which I find funny since we are all homo sapien sapiens and the only difference between us all are superficial appearance based aspects). Hell, I even have no problem with treating people with turnip IQ's as equals as long as they don't speak to me.

Oh, I think to be a reactionary anti-racist racist is not the path for you to pursue. Instead -- and you may already have simply discarded the reliance on white identity as a primary basis for your self-esteem. So you may want to just contemplate the prospect of being a righteous Human Being.

I've had the luck and benefit of crossing paths with a North American Indian shaman and a South American indigenous shaman.

They both explained to me the importance to follow the path of The Human Being.
 

DarthKyrie

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Oh, I think to be a reactionary anti-racist racist is not the path for you to pursue. Instead -- and you may already have simply discarded the reliance on white identity as a primary basis for your self-esteem. So you may want to just contemplate the prospect of being a righteous Human Being.

I've had the luck and benefit of crossing paths with a North American Indian shaman and a South American indigenous shaman.

They both explained to me the importance to follow the path of The Human Being.

You're telling a sociopath to be a righteous human being, the best I can do is not slaughter my fellow humans just because of their sheer stupidity.
 
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If the allegations in the lawsuit are true, and I do believe him, then this gentleman should win the lawsuit. My guess is that the company’s internal investigation will find merit in his allegations and settle out of court.

As far as the articles on the internet, they all source back to the original Kansas City Star article and the other employees corroboration is a Facebook post with someone else posting who claims they are/were an employee there. That Facebook link is no longer valid.

There is no doubt racism against black and brown people is still rampant in the US, especially in the South.


Where oh where have I heard of an employment situation where you can find TWO employees (in teams that are 10+ people) that hate their respective manager and would have no problem lying about their actions?

Oh wait - everywhere... especially in retail, food service or other entry level jobs.

I'm not saying that they are lying, I'm simply stating that you have one side of the argument. You don't even have a statement or response from the person that is actually being accused and we have dipshits here yelling "GUILTY! GUILTY!!" .... "but why is he guilty?" "Because TWOOOOO whole people said he did something".

How fucking dumb can you be?
 
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Did it for years and you are full of shit.. Poor people tip like shit. Assholes tip like shit. Color doesn't tip...

Your posting history and this post of your proves beyond a shadow of a doubt who you are when not pretend concern trolling... Come out if the closet already...

No one is saying that.

What is being said is that there have been plenty of academic studies that show a CORRELATION by race that shows the chances of leaving an insufficient or no tip is higher. This is a factual statement REGARDLESS of whatever liberal snowflake tears tell you otherwise. No one is saying that means you can individually target people by race and make statements of what actions they will perform.

Why do I have to explain this to a fucking grown adult you complete moron?
 

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If there is only one real problem here, I'm going to go with racism over people who point out racism.

Thankfully that paradigm isn't reality.
 
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Racism is dying. Sure there is some toothless dipshits in small towns but for the most part it's a thing of the past.

Tbh I'm sick of hearing about it. There are dumb racists just like there are just stupid people period. Its an excuse that just needs to die. Some ignorant red neck living in a trailer park isn't the cause of all of your problems.