Per the President You Are Ordered to...

[Ajay]

There's not very much evidence for this at all. While I'm sure there were some people here and there who felt that way it just wasn't a major motivating factor in his coalition.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/us/politics/trump-economic-anxiety.html

Thanks for the article reference. I didn't think that the average Trump voter was so "high minded":

In both cases, the findings revealed a fear that American global dominance was in danger, a belief that benefited Mr. Trump and the Republican Party.

The full report is available on PNAS here -> https://www.pnas.org/content/115/19/E4330
Figure 1 is eye opening vis-a-vis the relatively large temporal shifts in attitudes over a short interval (4 years). I'm curious as to what caused (influenced) this shift in thinking to globalization as a risk to status absent direct personal experiences of economic shifts - seems like something is missing.

 

[Jhhnn]

I see you are using your own private definition of war here in order to make your case. The occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq are part and parcel of the wars there.

He's a chest thumpin' fool. The Iranians *will* fight, bet on it, and commercial shipping won't enter the Persian gulf until they declare hostilities to be over. A quarter of the world's oil supply passes thru the strait of Hormuz. We'll also be ejected from Iraq completely. They won't have much choice given their dependence on Iranian backed Shia militias.

 

[whm1974]

He's a chest thumpin' fool. The Iranians *will* fight, bet on it, and commercial shipping won't enter the Persian gulf until they declare hostilities to be over. A quarter of the world's oil supply passes thru the strait of Hormuz. We'll also be ejected from Iraq completely. They won't have much choice given their dependence on Iranian backed Shia militias.

in a way I hope that does happen since it would forced the US and maybe the rest of the world into abandon the use of Fossil Fuels for energy. Or at least a start.

 

[brycejones]

You should take your own advice although calling you merely stupid would be too kind and nobody could get to that level of brain damage through alcohol alone. We never fought a war in Afghanistan and we won the war in Iraq is about 20 minutes with almost no casualties. We would wipe out Iran's (cough) military (/cough) in less time than that if we ever fought a war with them.

We're losing occupations because we didn't learn shit from the Russians in Afghanistan and the French in Vietnam. Winning wars in the middle east is easy, occupying the territory of zealot martyrs is another matter entirely. If you're not smart enough to understand the difference, hey, congrats!! You qualify for a job in the White House.

Holy shit, you got dumber.

 

[Jhhnn]

Thanks for the article reference. I didn't think that the average Trump voter was so "high minded":

The full report is available on PNAS here -> https://www.pnas.org/content/115/19/E4330
Figure 1 is eye opening vis-a-vis the relatively large temporal shifts in attitudes over a short interval (4 years). I'm curious as to what caused (influenced) this shift in thinking to globalization as a risk to status absent direct personal experiences of economic shifts - seems like something is missing.

What's missing is a proper time perspective. It's not about the 2012-2016 time period. Rust belt, Appalachian & small town inhabitants have grievances dating back to the 80's. There's a deep vein of discontent there, discontent with "the system". There's a lot of angst about what's been lost & a lot of cynicism. Trump & his Russian friends tapped right into that like nobody before. It follows the theory of the Big Lie-

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.
It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

This applies to both Trump & the person quoted above-

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

 

[Viper1j]

The G7 took it well...

 

[cytg111]

So, your companies out of China yet?

 

[Ajay]

What's missing is a proper time perspective. It's not about the 2012-2016 time period. Rust belt, Appalachian & small town inhabitants have grievances dating back to the 80's. There's a deep vein of discontent there, discontent with "the system". There's a lot of angst about what's been lost & a lot of cynicism.

There is always something that is missed in these studies, and often not delineated in a report's treatment of sources of error. Thanks for the explanation - that would fit with what appeared to me as missing personal experience (communally, if not individually). Addressing almost 40 years of neglect looks like a daunting problem; clearly rhetoric won't be sufficient for these people (nor should it be).

Thanks for the link on the 'Big Lie', Goebbels would be proud of Trump, sadly. I suppose this is no more mind boggling than Hitlers rise in the 1930s.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Cuck’d

 

[Viper1j]

He was cucked long before that..

Hank has been meeting Malaria's needs for a good long while now. Why do you think she took so long to leave New York?

There's a rumor that Barron might be Hank's and not Donny's kid.

Mama's baby and daddy's maybe.

 

[ivwshane]

He was cucked long before that..

Hank has been meeting Malaria's needs for a good long while now. Why do you think she took so long to leave New York?

There's a rumor that Barron might be Hank's and not Donny's kid.

Mama's baby and daddy's maybe.

Well...some people are saying...

 

[IronWing]

Cuck’d

Sorry to be a party pooper but if you look at the bokeh, Melania and Justin are probably five to ten feet apart. Melania's just doing her normal glam shot thing.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

what kind of CEO or small, large business owner is going to take the advice of the objectively worst businessman in the history of humanity and apply that to their company?

Because he is incompetently stupid and this trade war isn't ending anytime soon?

I'd rather take the safe bet and go to a developing country instead of sticking around with China to be honest. Even if we resolve THIS trade war, the next conflict is around the corner. It's just like Russia, as things currently stand we will continue to be in conflict with both of them.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

People connecting this to socialism really need to grasp further. Your head is already up your ass, maybe if you reach a little further you can grasp for some more turd straws.

Government dissuading business in certain places is no different than sanctions or national security. God forbid you refrain from producing further in 1 country and use one of the 250+ others. Apparently that means the government is owning the means and productions entirely of businesses.

Fucking morons hurrrr.

 

[nakedfrog]

"Our great companies are hereby ordered..."

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Sorry to be a party pooper but if you look at the bokeh, Melania and Justin are probably five to ten feet apart. Melania's just doing her normal glam shot thing.

Hey pictures of one point in time with no context are good enough for Hillary, AOC and Biden they are good enough for the President

 

[Fanatical Meat]

People connecting this to socialism really need to grasp further. Your head is already up your ass, maybe if you reach a little further you can grasp for some more turd straws.

Government dissuading business in certain places is no different than sanctions or national security. God forbid you refrain from producing further in 1 country and use one of the 250+ others. Apparently that means the government is owning the means and productions entirely of businesses.

Fucking morons hurrrr.

“For all of the Fake News Reporters that don’t have a clue as to what the law is relative to Presidential powers, China, etc., try looking at the Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977,” Mr. Trump wrote. “Case closed!”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/08/24/world/europe/trump-g7-summit.amp.html

Keep telling yourself that, I look forward to when the next Democrat President gets to yield the same power.

 

[Greenman]

"Our great companies are hereby ordered..."

So the OK company's can still work with China?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Sorry to be a party pooper but if you look at the bokeh, Melania and Justin are probably five to ten feet apart. Melania's just doing her normal glam shot thing.

It's a real shot that social media jumped on. Check the clip at about 50 seconds in

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/27/donald-trump-g7-summit-moos-pkg-vpx.cnn

 

[dawp]

have they (the trumps) stopped production of all of their merchandise made in china yet?

 

[dawp]

So the OK company's can still work with China?

na, just trumps corrupt organization can.