People who work in IT

efript

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hey guys im considering a career in the IT department.... for those of you who currently have postitions ther what do you like/dislike about it and what is your yearly pay (if you dont mind me asking such a personal question). what education did you receive to obtain your current position as well.. thanks!
 

Zugzwang152

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i work tech support/general help for my high school's computer department as a resume padder. I make $8.00/hr :p
 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
i work tech support/general help for my high school's computer department as a resume padder. I make $8.00/hr :p

You're still in HS?
 

Rainsford

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You'll need to be a big more specific...IT jobs have a huge range from helpdesk guys to the director of server operations. But here's some general advice. First of all, education is mostly worthless as far as knowledge goes. Certs, "MIS" degrees and such can get you in the door, but the IT world changes so fast you have to keep up on your own. Also, you need to be the right kind of person for an IT job. A person with a good knowledge of Windows but who can't get beyond "press button A, get action X" might be ok in the helpdesk, but not as a server admin.
 

Chaotic42

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Well, I'm not really in IT. I'm the network admin, but it doesn't really involve much. I maintain all of the systems, but our computer and network budget is $0, as is our backup budget.

It's not my main job at the place, but I took it for resume purposes. I make $7.50/hr

:D
 

Chadder007

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Its hard to get a job in IT right now....so don't consider it.
But I make 13 and 20 an hour. :) (two jobs) 13 is full time , 20 is part time (only a few hours a week)

....well ok, I guess consider it then. It took me a long while to get my job though. I am very lucky.
 

Soybomb

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I'm 22, last year of my BS. While I'm doing that I'm working at an ISP/CLEC as the *nix box admin for the telco, doing odd networking bits for the ISP, and the like. I get paid $7 an hour, which is squat, but the hours are quite flexible and its pretty nice work experience for after I get my degree and go look for a full time admin job.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Its hard to get a job in IT right now....so don't consider it.

I wouldn't say to not consider it but its having a bad time right now and it'll be hard getting a job there. Surviving in it is hard and you should be ready for anything to be thrown at you.

I'm not going to talk much about it since my dad works in the IT area and I don't know how much he'd want me to say...
 

Descartes

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I started when I was 17 and was making about $32k/yr by 18. I do mostly software development, but I have an administrative background as well. I do a lot of consulting work, so much of my focus is on deriving business value as well; in other words, I'm not a cube-monkey. I'm now 23 and make between quite a bit more than twice what I was making when I was 18. IT has been good to me, but it's been a lot of work as well. If you like it and do good work, you will build a solid reputation.

 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Descartes
I started when I was 17 and was making about $32k/yr by 18. I do mostly software development, but I have an administrative background as well. I do a lot of consulting work, so much of my focus is on deriving business value as well; in other words, I'm not a cube-monkey. I'm now 23 and make between quite a bit more than twice what I was making when I was 18. IT has been good to me, but it's been a lot of work as well. If you like it and do good work, you will build a solid reputation.

You found someone to hire you consistently to do software development and system administration with no college degree? Or are you one of those child prodigy types :)
 

PCMarine

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Descartes
I started when I was 17 and was making about $32k/yr by 18. I do mostly software development, but I have an administrative background as well. I do a lot of consulting work, so much of my focus is on deriving business value as well; in other words, I'm not a cube-monkey. I'm now 23 and make between quite a bit more than twice what I was making when I was 18. IT has been good to me, but it's been a lot of work as well. If you like it and do good work, you will build a solid reputation.

You found someone to hire you consistently to do software development and system administration with no college degree? Or are you one of those child prodigy types :)

My guess is that he had connections somehow (through mom or dad's work for example) to score that kind of job...
 

LordRaiden

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I've worked in various IT related jobs since 1986. What are you looking for specifically in the IT field? I do a variety of jobs from Sysadmin to network operations, and many other tasks. I even did a stint as a tech support monkey. :)
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Descartes
I started when I was 17 and was making about $32k/yr by 18. I do mostly software development, but I have an administrative background as well. I do a lot of consulting work, so much of my focus is on deriving business value as well; in other words, I'm not a cube-monkey. I'm now 23 and make between quite a bit more than twice what I was making when I was 18. IT has been good to me, but it's been a lot of work as well. If you like it and do good work, you will build a solid reputation.

You found someone to hire you consistently to do software development and system administration with no college degree? Or are you one of those child prodigy types :)

I don't like viewing myself in such flattering light, but for whatever reason it all just "clicks." I also have an insane thirst for knowledge, and I can assimilate and persist information quickly, so I can double as a reference when your books are back at the library :)

If you're curious, I got started by solving a few problems the company had by writing some software over the weekend. I did it entirely for the "cool factor", but people took notice; the rest is history. I now do a lot of consulting work for large companies, and my age actually works as a selling point.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: PCMarine
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Descartes
I started when I was 17 and was making about $32k/yr by 18. I do mostly software development, but I have an administrative background as well. I do a lot of consulting work, so much of my focus is on deriving business value as well; in other words, I'm not a cube-monkey. I'm now 23 and make between quite a bit more than twice what I was making when I was 18. IT has been good to me, but it's been a lot of work as well. If you like it and do good work, you will build a solid reputation.

You found someone to hire you consistently to do software development and system administration with no college degree? Or are you one of those child prodigy types :)

My guess is that he had connections somehow (through mom or dad's work for example) to score that kind of job...

No. My leads were all generated by me through simply proving myself. I didn't say, "I think I can do this"; rather, I simply did it and showed them the results. If you believe there's a problem you can solve, it's not that hard to find someone willing to let you do it. Once you pay your dues and build up a solid network, you find work being referred to you.
 

whizbang

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IT has been commoditized and work is being sent overseas in droves. That is why IT is no longer a career in the US. Please consider a different career path.
 

elbirth

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I'm currently in my 2nd year of college, working on campus doing deskside tech support for the professors of the Arts & Sciences Department. I'm made $7.75/hour last semester (as workstudy) and it should go up to $8.00/hour this fall. Since I'm a student, my hours are extremely flexible, and I can take off whenever I need with no questions asked since I have school-work that creeps up.

I'm hoping later I can get some stuff going, through a connection I've made recently... a friend of mine in the Marines just graduated college and was recently commissioned as Lieutenant. I've helped him and his fiance (now wife) with computer issues, and they've referred me onto their family. At his commissioning and wedding, his step-father, father, and uncle all had various things they were getting me to help them with. His step-father is in the Marines as well, though I can't remember what position he said he was doing... anyway, he said he's one of the guys that take things such as tv interviews (Geraldo comes to mind) and analyzes it for information leakage, giving out orders to various platoons, etc. He's told me several times that when I get out of college, that if I want a job somewhere to let him know and he'd get me in contact with the right people.....

The moral: share your computer knowledge/abilities with others and it could pay off
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: whizbang
IT has been commoditized and work is being sent overseas in droves. That is why IT is no longer a career in the US. Please consider a different career path.

I'm hoping that was sensationalism in an attempt to elicit a flame?
 

PCMarine

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Oct 13, 2002
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Whoa, not only is Descartes only 23 and has a damn good job for his age, but he also has a 350z *drool*
 

GoingUp

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I work for the Fed Govt doin sys admin stuff for $11.38 an hour...

I am still a student. I just got back in Dec from workin for HP in Germany for 6 months
 

ivol07

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I'm 24 years old. I have an AA in Graphic Design. I've also taken some PERL classes and know PHP. My official position is "Web Developer". Which means anything. I do everything from make the graphics in Photoshop to databases in MySQL to program in PERL, oh and I also do alot in Filemaker.

I'm making around $50k a year.
 

cchen

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Oct 12, 1999
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Everyone here thinks all IT is is helpdesk, networking, tech support, etc. There's A LOT more out there in IT.
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: whizbang
IT has been commoditized and work is being sent overseas in droves. That is why IT is no longer a career in the US. Please consider a different career path.

I'm hoping that was sensationalism in an attempt to elicit a flame?

no, he's not kidding.
 

cchen

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Oct 12, 1999
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Please. IT is definitely still a career option in the US. Its not really an option if you want to do menial work like the kind they outsource. Of course, they are outsourcing a lot of highly technical work as well to Russia and India, but the job market for IT is still strong if you have a strong education, work ethic, and good experience.

The company I'm interning for has literally hundreds of job openings that can be considered IT. We just hired 3 new people last week.