People who excessively tighten the display cable screws are jerks

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akugami

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99% of my office still uses smoke signals. The graphics department gets to use the morse code generator.

The state of the art monitors we deploy only supports VGA...and an amazing 1024x768 resolution...:awe:
 

Phoenix86

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Excessive = anything more than a couple of turns. I don't want to have to use a blowtorch to get the damn DVI cable off the back of the server\computer. Seriously- half way is good enough. Hell, I just tighten one half way and thats always been good enough
I literally just sat down from tightening a DVI cable all the way in because it was half way screwed in, when the computer was moved a couple inches it knocked the it slightly out of the socket.

No, I didn't use gorilla strength to fully tighten it, but it did have to be fully tightened.

:colbert:
 

Phoenix86

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Even my hdmi connectors have a screw to secure them in place. It's probably just apple that doesn't care anymore.
HDMI is a much longer connector compared to it's width. Also, the connectors aren't at the edge of the cable, they are inside a bit. You can't bump the cable out of the socket unless you happen to bump it straight out, this is why USB, HDMI, and display port don't suffer from this problem.
 

Exterous

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keep 'em snug, don't wanna lose all those bits.

I always knew you were a jerk...

I literally just sat down from tightening a DVI cable all the way in because it was half way screwed in, when the computer was moved a couple inches it knocked the it slightly out of the socket.

You must be doing something wrong if a halfway screwed cable falls out enough to become an issue. Or you are just trying to justify your jerkiness
 

Phoenix86

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I always knew you were a jerk...



You must be doing something wrong if a halfway screwed cable falls out enough to become an issue. Or you are just trying to justify your jerkiness
Hey now, I just got done fixing this problem and I see your post. Who's the jerk again? :D

User moved their computer a few inches and it came loose. It's not super uncommon...
 

IronWing

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I always knew you were a jerk...



You must be doing something wrong if a halfway screwed cable falls out enough to become an issue. Or you are just trying to justify your jerkiness


ASTM Standard C923 - 08(2013) requires that connectors on video displays be "fastened snuggly with attached screws being seated to their greatest depth such that the display may not be disconnected through justling or inadvertent movements of the display nor connected computer device." :colbert:
 

Brovane

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Hey now, I just got done fixing this problem and I see your post. Who's the jerk again? :D

User moved their computer a few inches and it came loose. It's not super uncommon...

This +1 - From a desktop support perspective you want those connections fully screwed on because you don't want to generate a support call because a connection became loose.

For servers I don't even really use a Video connection anymore. I have a cart with monitor and keyboard and plug into the server and configure the iDRAC and then remove monitor and keyboard and never need that again. Of course with blade servers you don't even need that.
 

rsbennett00

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HDMI is a much longer connector compared to it's width. Also, the connectors aren't at the edge of the cable, they are inside a bit. You can't bump the cable out of the socket unless you happen to bump it straight out, this is why USB, HDMI, and display port don't suffer from this problem.

Good to know.

I like free insurance, how about you guys?
 

Exterous

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From a desktop support perspective you want those connections fully screwed on because you don't want to generate a support call because a connection became loose

I disagree - I hated them even more when I was doing desktop support because I had to deal them so often. A couple of quick turns was all I needed and have never had a support call because it came lose

Does it end up hurting your arthritic hands when you try to loosen them??

No its usually the ones shoved behind some mount or in some stupidly inaccessible place that make it really difficult to get my fingers in there to twist

ASTM Standard C923 - 08(2013) requires that connectors on video displays be "fastened snuggly with attached screws being seated to their greatest depth such that the display may not be disconnected through justling or inadvertent movements of the display nor connected computer device." :colbert:

Well, they're jerks too!
 

Brovane

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I disagree - I hated them even more when I was doing desktop support because I had to deal them so often. A couple of quick turns was all I needed and have never had a support call because it came lose

I can go with that. Of course I haven't done Desktop support in 10-years so I cannot really comment to much. :whiste:
 

jlee

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whiule you are correct, most non workstation office computers (desktops) ship with a standard integrated VGA connector.

workstations with dedicated cards will have more options. hell even the business class laptops still use VGA, your lucky if you get one with HDMI or Display Port

My laptop has HDMI, but the dock has 2x DisplayPort. :)
 

Anubis

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My laptop has HDMI, but the dock has 2x DisplayPort. :)

my HP elitebook has a display port and VGA, the dock has display port, VGA and DVI

the non workstation class laptop I had before only had VGA
 
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Cerpin Taxt

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I tighten them on my customer's PCs only because if there was EVER a problem (as unlikely as it is), it won't be because "somebody" didn't tighten the cable screws.
 

Ken g6

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ASTM Standard C923 - 08(2013) requires that connectors on video displays be "fastened snuggly with attached screws being seated to their greatest depth such that the display may not be disconnected through justling or inadvertent movements of the display nor connected computer device." :colbert:

You almost had me, but I Googled that one.
This specification covers the minimum performance and material requirements for resilient connectors used for connections between reinforced concrete manholes conforming to Specification C478 and pipes, between wastewater structures and pipes, and between precast reinforced concrete pipe and laterals.
You must have some tough monitor cables! :colbert:
 

midwestfisherman

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Excessive = anything more than a couple of turns. I don't want to have to use a blowtorch to get the damn DVI cable off the back of the server\computer. Seriously- half way is good enough. Hell, I just tighten one half way and thats always been good enough

Maybe you should work on strengthening your hands! :)
 

alkemyst

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I used to do administration work and computer consulting (not a hobby, a real $40-50k a year in billing job).

Jesus Christ, so many times the monitor was so tightened down a screw driver stripped out the connector trying to remove it and sometimes the plastic pulled off the metal pin even with pliers.

Same with motherboard and other screws.

That said, too many use power tools for these kinds of things.
 

lxskllr

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What was really fun was drm dongles screwed into drm dongles which finished off with a serial cable. Utter bullshit. Make a shitty stressed connection on the back of the computer so some company can restrict my use of the paid for software. Luckily those are no more at the office, but I do have some software I'd like to use. A project on the back burner is cracking one of those stupid dongles so I can use my 20 year old unsupported software made by a company no longer in existence :^S
 

alkemyst

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What was really fun was drm dongles screwed into drm dongles which finished off with a serial cable. Utter bullshit. Make a shitty stressed connection on the back of the computer so some company can restrict my use of the paid for software. Luckily those are no more at the office, but I do have some software I'd like to use. A project on the back burner is cracking one of those stupid dongles so I can use my 20 year old unsupported software made by a company no longer in existence :^S

Yeah I forgot about over-tightened dongles.

In the Mortgage business these were all over the place