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People who drive Trucks, Vans, Minivans and SUV's should need a separate licence.

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As it stands right now, there are multiple classes of licences that are for passenger and larger trucks (like semi's, busses, etc).

Anyone who has a "passenger" licence is permitted to drive a little economy box all the way to a huge truck or SUV.

These types of vehicles handle a lot differently than the smaller type cars and I think that people should be required to get a different class of licence to drive them. As with all the different types of licences, if you have one that is for larger vehicles you are entitled to drive smaller vehicles as well.

I think it would help make the roads a lot safer because you wouldn't have people behind the wheel of vehicles they can't handle properly.

What do you think?
 
It would help, but I think rather than just have a separate license, they should just make it harder to get a normal license. That would kill two birds with one stone, I think.
 
The skills needed to drive a large SUV are the same as an econobox, but they are very different from a semi or bus.

Bad drivers are bad drivers.
 
Originally posted by: jagec
It would help, but I think rather than just have a separate license, they should just make it harder to get a normal license. That would kill two birds with one stone, I think.
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agreed
 
Originally posted by: jagec
It would help, but I think rather than just have a separate license, they should just make it harder to get a normal license. That would kill two birds with one stone, I think.
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Agreed.

edit: read it wrong at first.
 
I don't agree your reasons. Personally, I have no problem driving a car -> trucks/SUV. As for safe road, an idiot/dangerous driver behind the wheel of any vechicles would make the road dangerous for everyone.
 
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
The skills needed to drive a large SUV are the same as an econobox, but they are very different from a semi or bus.

Bad drivers are bad drivers.
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How can you possibly say something small like a Honda Civic handles the same as a Chevy Suburban? From first hand experience, they are not the same.
 
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
The skills needed to drive a large SUV are the same as an econobox, but they are very different from a semi or bus.

Bad drivers are bad drivers.
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How can you possibly say something small like a Honda Civic handles the same as a Chevy Suburban? From first hand experience, they are not the same.
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Where does he say a Civic HANDLES the same as a Suburban. What he's saying is the skills involved are the same.
 
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
The skills needed to drive a large SUV are the same as an econobox, but they are very different from a semi or bus.

Bad drivers are bad drivers.
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How can you possibly say something small like a Honda Civic handles the same as a Chevy Suburban? From first hand experience, they are not the same.
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Handling doesn't have much to do with the skills needed to drive one.

<----- has driven every thing from a small Hyundai Rental car to a 24ft Uhaul Truck.

Right now I've got a Dodge Dakota Truck as a rental, because it is actually easier to drive than a big-ass Buick LeSabre. Fact is, most SUVs and Trucks are pretty damn easy to drive, but long ass Old People cars are far worse. I have a much easier time driving an F-150 than a Deville or a Crown Vic, and I've driven all of those.

 
I have already run 2 women off the road that were driving SUV's. One was an expedition and one was a Jeep. In each case they tried to force their way into my lane while I was in it. I guess they thought the intimidating size of their vehicle would make me move in my little Saturn. I didn't. Their lane ended and they went hopping the curb. Had they been in a smaller car they probably wouldn't have been so bold as to try that crap on me.

I wish a cop had been around to give them a reckless driving ticket. You can't go around trying to ram people out of their lane just because your car is twice as big as theirs.

I have the same problem on the river with my jet ski. Big boats think they automatically have the right of way. They don't.
 
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
The skills needed to drive a large SUV are the same as an econobox, but they are very different from a semi or bus.

Bad drivers are bad drivers.
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How can you possibly say something small like a Honda Civic handles the same as a Chevy Suburban? From first hand experience, they are not the same.
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Where does he say a Civic HANDLES the same as a Suburban. What he's saying is the skills involved are the same.
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The skills to drive any vehicle other than a semi with a box attached are the same. It's irrelevent because they all handle differently.

Just because I have the skill to drive a Civic doesn't give me the ability to safely control a much larger vehicle.
 
They don't handle all that differently unless you're making an emergency maneuver. That's when they can flip. Otherwise, they only FEEL bouncy.
 
This post reminded me of the funniest thing. The other day I was on the 101 driving to school, and this old man in a little Hyundai was wipping in and out of traffic. Not necessarily unusual for SoCal, but the thing was this guy wasn't even looking over his shoulder. He'd drive straight up soneone's ass, cut the guy to his left off, then get back in the lane to the right. Just one of those things that's so disturbing you have to laugh.
 
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Yeah they definately don't handle the same.

I think getting a license in general should be harder.
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Of course they don't handle the same, but *most* people learn to adapt to the car they're in, rental or not, especially if they own it(i hope!). I personally drive a suburban and i handle it better than my friend in his metro....as stated above, bad drivers are bad drivers. I totally agree about the current license test being WAY to easy, too many idiots on the road.....

 
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
The skills needed to drive a large SUV are the same as an econobox, but they are very different from a semi or bus.

Bad drivers are bad drivers.
Click to expand...

How can you possibly say something small like a Honda Civic handles the same as a Chevy Suburban? From first hand experience, they are not the same.
Click to expand...

Where does he say a Civic HANDLES the same as a Suburban. What he's saying is the skills involved are the same.
Click to expand...

The skills to drive any vehicle other than a semi with a box attached are the same. It's irrelevent because they all handle differently.

Just because I have the skill to drive a Civic doesn't give me the ability to safely control a much larger vehicle.
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The man has a point. By that logic there really should be only one class of license.
 
Originally posted by: Lithium381
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Yeah they definately don't handle the same.

I think getting a license in general should be harder.
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Of course they don't handle the same, but *most* people learn to adapt to the car they're in, rental or not, especially if they own it(i hope!). I personally drive a suburban and i handle it better than my friend in his metro....as stated above, bad drivers are bad drivers. I totally agree about the current license test being WAY to easy, too many idiots on the road.....
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Still...like Stefan pointed out...I could probably handle an 18 wheeler with some practice. I'd have a bitch of a time doing it at first, but the principles are the same as driving a car.

Yet, those are a different license.
 
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
The skills needed to drive a large SUV are the same as an econobox, but they are very different from a semi or bus.

Bad drivers are bad drivers.
Click to expand...

How can you possibly say something small like a Honda Civic handles the same as a Chevy Suburban? From first hand experience, they are not the same.
Click to expand...

Where does he say a Civic HANDLES the same as a Suburban. What he's saying is the skills involved are the same.
Click to expand...

The skills to drive any vehicle other than a semi with a box attached are the same. It's irrelevent because they all handle differently.

Just because I have the skill to drive a Civic doesn't give me the ability to safely control a much larger vehicle.
Click to expand...

You didn't answer the question. He didn't say SUVs and cars handle the same. Handling has absolutely nothing to do with driving skill. Handling will not make for your mistakes if you can't drive. If you lack the skills in driving a car, I'll bet you'll lack the skills in driving an SUV and vice versa.

I'm all for more stringent testing of drivers whether they drive SUVs or cars. Its much too easy to get a license here in the US. First off, they should make everyone take the test driving a manual (handicapped people withstanding). I'll bet that would weed out a lot of uncoordinated people. They should also give more stringent vision tests. I see so many people driving with tunnel vision completely unaware of their surroundings. Those people should definitely not be driving. Third, they should put you on probation for a year with some sort of sticker on your car to show you are a new driver. Japan has this system and it works well.
 
Originally posted by: Stefan
As it stands right now, there are multiple classes of licences that are for passenger and larger trucks (like semi's, busses, etc).

Anyone who has a "passenger" licence is permitted to drive a little economy box all the way to a huge truck or SUV.

These types of vehicles handle a lot differently than the smaller type cars and I think that people should be required to get a different class of licence to drive them. As with all the different types of licences, if you have one that is for larger vehicles you are entitled to drive smaller vehicles as well.

I think it would help make the roads a lot safer because you wouldn't have people behind the wheel of vehicles they can't handle properly.

What do you think?
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dumbest thing i heard yet
 
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
The skills needed to drive a large SUV are the same as an econobox, but they are very different from a semi or bus.

Bad drivers are bad drivers.
Click to expand...

How can you possibly say something small like a Honda Civic handles the same as a Chevy Suburban? From first hand experience, they are not the same.
Click to expand...

Where does he say a Civic HANDLES the same as a Suburban. What he's saying is the skills involved are the same.
Click to expand...

The skills to drive any vehicle other than a semi with a box attached are the same. It's irrelevent because they all handle differently.

Just because I have the skill to drive a Civic doesn't give me the ability to safely control a much larger vehicle.
Click to expand...

You didn't answer the question. He didn't say SUVs and cars handle the same. Handling has absolutely nothing to do with driving skill. Handling will not make for your mistakes if you can't drive. If you lack the skills in driving a car, I'll bet you'll lack the skills in driving an SUV and vice versa.

I'm all for more stringent testing of drivers whether they drive SUVs or cars. Its much too easy to get a license here in the US. First off, they should make everyone take the test driving a manual (handicapped people withstanding). I'll bet that would weed out a lot of uncoordinated people. They should also give more stringent vision tests. I see so many people driving with tunnel vision completely unaware of their surroundings. Those people should definitely not be driving. Third, they should put you on probation for a year with some sort of sticker on your car to show you are a new driver. Japan has this system and it works well.
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I very much agree that testing needs to be more difficult. I think a problem with keeping one passenger class is that someone can be "just good enough" to pass in their small car, but then as soon as they get home with their new licence they take out their new SUV that they don't know how to handle.

If they are tested for driving a large vehicle, they have demonstrated that they can drive the large vehicle and shouldn't be posing a risk to other drivers.

If a separate class is not the solution, we need to find one. I see far too many people carelessly driving around in vahicles they can't handle and endanger me and everyone else around them.
 
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