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Kadarin

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Assassinated by his own bodyguard because he opposed Pakistan's blasphemy law. His stand should indeed be lauded.

From here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12149607

At his first court appearance in Islamabad last week, he was showered with rose petals by sympathisers, including a number of lawyers.

Also:

In a news conference on Sunday evening, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani reiterated the government did not plan to amend the law.

But Minority Affairs Minister Shahbaz Bhatti said the blasphemy law should be amended to avoid its misuse.

Earlier that day 50,000 protesters marched in the southern city of Karachi against the proposed reforms.

The rally was attended by all major Muslim groups and sects in the city, including moderates and conservatives.

Many of the demonstrators held banners in support of Qadri.

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Although no-one convicted under it has ever been executed, more than 30 accused have been killed by lynch mobs.

Pakistan is a lost country.
 

bfdd

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Yeah Pakistan is pretty fucked rofl. Blasphemy laws? I am so fucking glad I was born where I was. I can say shit like George Washington loved to fuck boys and eat donkey schlong without the government coming to my work or home and allowing fuckers to stone me to death.
 

routan

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Yeah Pakistan is pretty fucked rofl. Blasphemy laws? I am so fucking glad I was born where I was. I can say shit like George Washington loved to fuck boys and eat donkey schlong without the government coming to my work or home and allowing fuckers to stone me to death.

It cant be that fucked up if people like Salman Taseer are still present. Lest we not forget, it took a person like Abraham Lincoln and a frigging civil war to get rid of slavery in this country.

And lets also not forget that discrimination still persisted, all the way to the 60s. And is still present now. Despite people like Martin Luther King - who was also assasinated.
 

Kadarin

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It cant be that fucked up if people like Salman Taseer are still present. Lest we not forget, it took a person like Abraham Lincoln and a frigging civil war to get rid of slavery in this country.

And lets also not forget that discrimination still persisted, all the way to the 60s. And is still present now. Despite people like Martin Luther King - who was also assasinated.

I'll grant you that discrimination still exists today in the US and yes, MLK was assassinated. I'll also grant you that the very fact that Salman Taseer believed as he did was a wonderful thing, and a glimmer of hope. However, the fact that 50,000 people from "all major Muslim groups and sects" attended a rally against reforming the blasphemy laws is VERY telling. Salman Taseer appears to have been in a pretty small minority with his opinion, and the people against him are both very numerous and very passionate about how they feel on the subject.
 

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You know what's interesting about assassination? Well, not only does it change those popularity polls in a big fucking hurry, but it's also interesting to notice who it is we assassinate. Ya ever notice who it is, got to think who it is we kill? It's always people who've told us to live together in harmony and try to love one another. Jesus, Gandhi, Lincoln, John Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Medgar Evers, Malcolm X, John Lennon – they all said, "Try to live together peacefully." Bam! Right in the fucking head! Apparently we're not ready for that. Yeah, that's difficult behavior for us. We're too busy thinking around, sitting around trying to think up ways to kill each other.
-George Carlin
 

WHAMPOM

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Yeah Pakistan is pretty fucked rofl. Blasphemy laws? I am so fucking glad I was born where I was. I can say shit like George Washington loved to fuck boys and eat donkey schlong without the government coming to my work or home and allowing fuckers to stone me to death.

"Knock, knock!"
 

shira

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Yeah Pakistan is pretty fucked rofl. Blasphemy laws? I am so fucking glad I was born where I was. I can say shit like George Washington loved to fuck boys and eat donkey schlong without the government coming to my work or home and allowing fuckers to stone me to death.

We do know for a fact, however, that Muhammad was a pedophile who at age 50 married little 6-year-old Aisha, but had the decency to wait until she was 9 to fvck her brains out. However, Muslims tell us that Muhammad was a great and holy prophet. Which must mean that God changed his mind on whether sex with under-age girls is jake, for as religious fanatics everywhere know, all morality comes from God.

Which begs the question: How can an Omniscient superbeing change his mind?
 

CanOWorms

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A lot of European countries also have blasphemy laws to protect their royalty. There was a famous case last year with a Spanish humor magazine found guilty for making fun of a prince.
 

drebo

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Yeah Pakistan is pretty fucked rofl. Blasphemy laws? I am so fucking glad I was born where I was. I can say shit like George Washington loved to fuck boys and eat donkey schlong without the government coming to my work or home and allowing fuckers to stone me to death.

Yeah, but don't try to say the same about Obama or his lackies or he'll toss you in Gitmo as a "domestic extremist" or "enemy combatant".

And this freedom to say what you want won't last forever. We're heading toward that sort of authoritarian state faster than most people care to realize.
 

CPA

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Yeah, but don't try to say the same about Obama or his lackies or he'll toss you in Gitmo as a "domestic extremist" or "enemy combatant".

And this freedom to say what you want won't last forever. We're heading toward that sort of authoritarian state faster than most people care to realize.


Case in point

Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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xj0hnx

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Case in point

Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.

Disgusting that even after more facts have come out showing that the left was once again completely off target, they are STILL pushing it, and I have yet to hear a single one of them apologize to all the people they blamed.
 

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I'll grant you that discrimination still exists today in the US and yes, MLK was assassinated. I'll also grant you that the very fact that Salman Taseer believed as he did was a wonderful thing, and a glimmer of hope. However, the fact that 50,000 people from "all major Muslim groups and sects" attended a rally against reforming the blasphemy laws is VERY telling. Salman Taseer appears to have been in a pretty small minority with his opinion, and the people against him are both very numerous and very passionate about how they feel on the subject.

Spot on. It's not a small fringe of zealots that are the problem, it's apparently the majority in places like Pakistan that are insane. Salman Taseer was a glimmer of sanity there, but it appears his viewpoint represents a small minority of the people. Pakistan = screwed.
 

routan

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I'll grant you that discrimination still exists today in the US and yes, MLK was assassinated. I'll also grant you that the very fact that Salman Taseer believed as he did was a wonderful thing, and a glimmer of hope. However, the fact that 50,000 people from "all major Muslim groups and sects" attended a rally against reforming the blasphemy laws is VERY telling. Salman Taseer appears to have been in a pretty small minority with his opinion, and the people against him are both very numerous and very passionate about how they feel on the subject.

A crowd of 50000 is easily assembled in Pakistan if you give 10000 families a bag of rice. A large, very large percentage of the population is extremely poor, uneducated and easily swayed.

Heck, you can get 50000+ easily for a "tea party". Getting a bunch of people together for a rally on scrupulous grounds is not telling in any fashion.
 

Scotteq

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A crowd of 50000 is easily assembled in Pakistan if you give 10000 families a bag of rice. A large, very large percentage of the population is extremely poor, uneducated and easily swayed.

Heck, you can get 50000+ easily for a "tea party". Getting a bunch of people together for a rally on scrupulous grounds is not telling in any fashion.


..especially if that rally serves as a counterpoint to one's assertions.
 

fire400

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growing out of teen years, i've realized that young adulthood, morals and beliefs and stance on life begin to deepen on many Americans, college or not, based on what I've noticed around people I know and friends.

ingraining deeper and deeper is like a seed in the mind that makes the indivitual believe that the world in their eyes will continue to revolve around them - either leading to a downfall or complete blindness.

more positively, explore life, always.

a leader is judged by their integrity. born with exepectations or born into expectations. can no one be saved anymore? betrayal and mistrust, unfortunately exist heavily in regimes and nations worldwide. proves humans have biological thresholds. until the "rise of machines"...
 
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