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People, Don't Waste Your Time...

munruss

Golden Member
...on those worthless computer certifications. They don't mean anything today. Concentrate on your college degree.
 
you're just finding this out???
I've always said paper certs were worthless. Anyone that can study and take tests can get one, it takes skill and UNDERSTANDING to problem solve and diagnose. cause every error is going to be different.
 
Originally posted by: munruss
...on those worthless computer certifications. They don't mean anything today. Concentrate on your college degree.

dude you're like Wdagagauunung but we can understand what you're saying, and it sucks.
 
Never read a more untrue statement in my life.

Obivously experience and knowledge are the most important, followed by simply having a degree. But certifications CAN also be an incredible way to:

1. Get your foot in the door
2. Beat out someone on equal footing with you
3. Get a raise / promotion
4. A good method / goal oriented way of starting to learn a new subject matter/skill set

Obviously certifications on their own are not going to get you a job, or let you keep the one you have. But everything helps.

While studying for my CS degree in College, on my own spare time I studied for and learned about Unix/System administration. I became a certified Solaris Sys Admin and Network admin. With those 2 certs, I was able to get my foot in the door working for Sun Microsystems, and they continually have helped me get better jobs/positions in the future.

Certifications do not show that you know the material/subject/skillset - but they do show you have the ability to learn it, and are motivated enough to go out and get them.

Currently working on getting my CCNA. Why? Because I want to enhance my networking skillset.

Having a certification will NEVER HURT you, but not having one MIGHT. Just my .02.
 
Originally posted by: ProUser
Never read a more untrue statement in my life.

Obivously experience and knowledge are the most important, followed by simply having a degree. But certifications CAN also be an incredible way to:

1. Get your foot in the door
2. Beat out someone on equal footing with you
3. Get a raise / promotion
4. A good method / goal oriented way of starting to learn a new subject matter/skill set

Obviously certifications on their own are not going to get you a job, or let you keep the one you have. But everything helps.

While studying for my CS degree in College, on my own spare time I studied for and learned about Unix/System administration. I became a certified Solaris Sys Admin and Network admin. With those 2 certs, I was able to get my foot in the door working for Sun Microsystems, and they continually have helped me get better jobs/positions in the future.

Certifications do not show that you know the material/subject/skillset - but they do show you have the ability to learn it, and are motivated enough to go out and get them.

Currently working on getting my CCNA. Why? Because I want to enhance my networking skillset.

Having a certification will NEVER HURT you, but not having one MIGHT. Just my .02.

You and have the country! The field is flooded. It's BS!
 
Originally posted by: munruss
Originally posted by: ProUser
Never read a more untrue statement in my life.

Obivously experience and knowledge are the most important, followed by simply having a degree. But certifications CAN also be an incredible way to:

1. Get your foot in the door
2. Beat out someone on equal footing with you
3. Get a raise / promotion
4. A good method / goal oriented way of starting to learn a new subject matter/skill set

Obviously certifications on their own are not going to get you a job, or let you keep the one you have. But everything helps.

While studying for my CS degree in College, on my own spare time I studied for and learned about Unix/System administration. I became a certified Solaris Sys Admin and Network admin. With those 2 certs, I was able to get my foot in the door working for Sun Microsystems, and they continually have helped me get better jobs/positions in the future.

Certifications do not show that you know the material/subject/skillset - but they do show you have the ability to learn it, and are motivated enough to go out and get them.

Currently working on getting my CCNA. Why? Because I want to enhance my networking skillset.

Having a certification will NEVER HURT you, but not having one MIGHT. Just my .02.

You and have the country! The field is flooded. It's BS!


Your logic makes no sense whatsoever. Yes, the market is flooded. So? You just going to lay down and cry yourself to sleep? Why not make yourself as attractive as an employee as you possibly can? If you think getting certified in anything is a waste, or is complete BS - then do you apply the same logic to a college degree?

If you and I are going for the same job, and we are 100% identical in every way except I have 4 certifications. Who wins? I do. I won the second you cried "BS; waste of time."

I'm interviewing for an open position in my group right now. I guarantee you I will hire someone with a certification before I hire someone who doesn't if they are on equal footing otherwise.
 
You and have the country! The field is flooded. It's BS!

Exactly, there's a ton of people looking for job. I'm going to be sure I have every advantage I can over all the other applicants. The combination of a degree, experience in your field, and certification in your field is an excellent combination. A college degree is no more of a magic pill to get you a job than a cert is.
 
yes degree is immportant but also are the certicates. Like it or not employeers look for that. Some employeers will not even call you for interview if your don't have certification starting with the most basic a+ and on. Yes you can sit and read and study for those certification but it also says that you are willing to speend your time on learning this material
 
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