Pentium4 3.0C VS Athlon64 3000+

[videoclone]

Some guy in the office just asked me what CPU he should get for his system
these are the two his eyeing off and no overclocking at all on this system.

What do u guys recommend?

He will be playing heaps of games divxing movies, watching them and just general computer use ie net surfing so on.

 

[stardust]

For the moment, go for the cheaper one. Otherwise, neither, just wait.

 

[videoclone]

There is no waiting The time is now ! :disgust:

 

[Shimmishim]

they are priced about the same...

 

[Boonesmi]

im having a hard time waiting for the socket939 boards

i am very tempted to buy the new aopen board just reviewed on the anandtech mainpage and getting an A64 3000+




but to answer your question.... personally i would take the athlon64 in a heartbeat

 

[Soulkeeper]

i agree. the only reason i am not getting an athlon64 is cause i have one of the best P4 boards and am still playing with socket478

but i wouldn't even consider going athlon64 till socket939 comes out with all those new features the industry has been promising us (bye bye agp etc.)

anyways the athlon64 still beats the P4c in most stuff but not everything from what i've seen

 

[tallman45]

As per this websites Intel processor Roadmap:

"If you're going to buy a Pentium 4 soon we would recommend waiting until next quarter, you'll have a new socket and new chipsets to go along with it. "

If you cannot wait then your choice depends on what you will be using as apps. In some cases one processor is better than the other. If it is digital imaging then the Prescott is the way to go which by looking at the chart below could be substantial if you are in the photography business. For gaming then it would be the 3000+, there is also the potential that 64bit os/apps will be around soon, then that also would favor the A64.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/cpu/prescott-tests/table.gif&1=1

 

[McArra]

A64 all the way.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Pentiums just took a price drop and the P4 3.0c is better then the athlon 3000. Athlons been getting cocky with their processor ratings. The 3200 is more of a match for the P4 3.0 gig from what I can remember. Feburary 15 is when amd is due to get some price cuts so if your going to go that route I'd wait till then.

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Pentiums just took a price drop and the P4 3.0c is better then the athlon 3000. Athlons been getting cocky with their processor ratings. The 3200 is more of a match for the P4 3.0 gig from what I can remember. Feburary 15 is when amd is due to get some price cuts so if your going to go that route I'd wait till then.

For games, that certainly isn't true. For most other things the A64 rating is just about right, with it being low for the large file streaming media software. But for games, which is the main thing I care about, the A64 3000 beats a P43.2c in most things, and will dominate a P43.0c .

Jeremy

 

[Swanny]

A64. I think it should be more future proof, although both platforms will soon be dead ends.

 

[Jeff7181]

No overclocking? No contest... Athlon-64.

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Pentiums just took a price drop and the P4 3.0c is better then the athlon 3000. Athlons been getting cocky with their processor ratings. The 3200 is more of a match for the P4 3.0 gig from what I can remember. Feburary 15 is when amd is due to get some price cuts so if your going to go that route I'd wait till then.

You're talking about Athlon XP ratings, not A64 ratings.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
No overclocking? No contest... Athlon-64.

Yep, particularly because of the intended usage.

 

[RussianSensation]

My friend just asked me to help him build his computer and overclocking isnt an option for him as he doesnt want to risk stability and he has narrowed it down beween these 2 cpus. Personally since A-64 is faster in games, has support for 64bit, runs cooler than p4, is faster in Microsoft Office apps, winzip and winrar which are commonly used every day, it seems the general usage for most people would give advantage to A64 over p4. The majority of the benchmarks on the interent show that unless you are big on HT beneficial apps like SETI@Home, multimedia applications and things like Photoshop or media encoding/decoding, streaming, a64 seems to be faster.

 

[Duvie]

Again...This is a no-brainer.....The A64 definitley....The uses are down its alley and without ocing the 64 offers more potential at stock speed and in the future with 64 bits.

The key to these threads are

1) intended use = AMD64

2) overclocking or not = AMD64 case OCing is not an issue

3) price = TIE...price is pretty neglible

 

[edmundoab]

is the P4 3.0C any better then the A64 3k?
or is it from the price point of view that the Athlon is choosen??

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: edmundoab
is the P4 3.0C any better then the A64 3k?
or is it from the price point of view that the Athlon is choosen??

The 3.0c is better then the A64 3000+ in quite a few things but it tends to be in areas of multimedia, rendering, disributed computing...In some of these areas it is do to the HT and it power....

However in applications of gaming, generla office usage, and some mathematics/scientific stuff the 3000+ will even beat the 3.2c.....Just fact....

As anandtech as stated and a reacent article at Xbit it makes the cpu war a bit tougher to read....They really are strong in their own areas and really depend on the user.....

Now 64bit could turn the leads to massive and the deficits to complete reversals, but that has yet to materialize ann I don't have any timelines on that...So I would recommend A64 is this persons uses...Divx watching is not multimedia I am talking about and my P3 600 can watch divx movies....

 

[videoclone]

i said making divx's and also watching not just watching .... with Gknot ( www.doom9.org ) and xvid and divx

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: videoclone
Some guy in the office just asked me what CPU he should get for his system
these are the two his eyeing off and no overclocking at all on this system.

What do u guys recommend?

He will be playing heaps of games divxing movies, watching them and just general computer use ie net surfing so on.

I don't know....i have pretty good reading comprehension as well as eyesight and I see no such remark.....You must have short-term memory and can't remember what you wrote...

Or maybe that mind comprehnesion software you were running didn't read your thoughts correctly....

Encoding movies will go more to P4c though I can not say for certain if he ran a 64bit Divx program on windows 64 would make it faster...Ofcourse I am waiting on all you AMD talkers to show us the money with the win64 version that has been out for a few days now....Been pretty silent so I am assumming not much better right now....

 

[Corporate Thug]

there is more potential in the A64 with a 64 bit OS on the way

 

[redpriest_]

With a 64-bit codec but 32-bit program the Athlon 64 manages a ~15% increase in speed in DivX according to Anandtech's latest 'preview'. This is using a beta build of Win64 that's ancient (the preview build MS is offering is not the latest offered to beta testers, for instance) and ancient compilers (the latest MS compiler publicly available is from February 2003 - a year old).

 

[videoclone]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: videoclone
Some guy in the office just asked me what CPU he should get for his system
these are the two his eyeing off and no overclocking at all on this system.

What do u guys recommend?

He will be playing heaps of games divxing movies, watching them and just general computer use ie net surfing so on.

I don't know....i have pretty good reading comprehension as well as eyesight and I see no such remark.....You must have short-term memory and can't remember what you wrote...

Or maybe that mind comprehnesion software you were running didn't read your thoughts correctly....

Encoding movies will go more to P4c though I can not say for certain if he ran a 64bit Divx program on windows 64 would make it faster...Ofcourse I am waiting on all you AMD talkers to show us the money with the win64 version that has been out for a few days now....Been pretty silent so I am assumming not much better right now....

The Word ( Divxing ) in my post means making Divx's... just like the word ( filming ) mean filming a movie.

 

[myocardia]

Well, since he's probably going to be playing alot more games than he will be creating divx files, I also recommend the Athlon64. It really isn't all that much slower at encoding media, compared to the P4C's. Nothing at all like the Athlon XP's.