pentium vs i3

[ani1998]

which one is better in GAMING(only)

intel core i3
7770 oc
cx 430
asus p8 b75 m lx

OR,

intel pentium g680
amd 7850
cx 430
asus p8 b75 m lx

plzzz.. help me b/w these two setups..........
I DONT HVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS..

games looking forward to play on this pc-
-gta 5
-crysis 3
-nfs all parts
-bf 3,4
-cod 3
n sme more..
thanks in advance

 

[Matt1970]

The Pentium is a stripped down core i3 so clock for clock the i3 will be faster.

 

[Essence_of_War]

If you can make upgrades later, the i3 will give you room to grow. You can get a stronger gpu in a year or two and not worry about being cpu bound.

If you just want maximum performance right now, I think the right call is the pentium w/ the 7850.

I think the i3 and the pentium are closer in performance than the 7770 and 7850.

 

[lagokc]

Which i3 and why are you considering a Sandy Bridge Pentium when the Ivy Bridges aren't more expensive?

 

[sm625]

Buy a new 7850 and a used i3. This one for example. It is a 2100T I think, but still much faster than the G860 due to being 4 threaded. Cant beat that for $60. Do your own due diligence, because specs on an i3-2100T are 2.5GHz, not the 2.4GHz indicated by that seller. I would definitely clarify this before buying.

 

[frozentundra123456]

If you can make upgrades later, the i3 will give you room to grow. You can get a stronger gpu in a year or two and not worry about being cpu bound.

If you just want maximum performance right now, I think the right call is the pentium w/ the 7850.

I think the i3 and the pentium are closer in performance than the 7770 and 7850.

If those two choices are absolutely the only options, yes the pentium plus 7850 will be faster in gaming. However, I would strongly advise delaying until you can save up for the i3, or delay buying a game or something. Some of the games you listed are fairly demanding of both gpu and cpu, and the hyperthreading of the i3 would definitely be useful.

 

[xXdragonbatXX]

Pentium old, i3 new.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

The Pentium should never be considered for gaming anymore. 4 threads are minimum.

 

[ani1998]

what about if i take the i3 (3220) and the amd 7850... will this be a good setup for the next 2 years... n then after 2 years i upgrade to smthing like a i5 3570...
is it a good idea...??
and ,
can u list sme good tutorial videos of how to make a computer as im making a pc for the first time...
thanks in advance

 

[UaVaj]

which one is better in GAMING(only)
plzzz.. help me b/w these two setups..........
I DONT HVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS..

do you guys ever try to comprehend post #1 or do you just like giving advice to yourself?

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back to the OP.

based on your two choices of hardware and based on the games you listed.

get the intel pentium g680, amd 7850, cx 430, asus p8 b75 m lx.

those games listed are gpu intensive and the faster gpu will offer a better balance overall. g680 is a decent cpu.



lastly - if you can stretch the budget. get both the i3 (preferably an i5) and the 7850.
as for how long it will last. that all depends on you. what game you play, what resolution, and what quality setting.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

get the intel pentium g680

Do not, under any circumstances, consider a Pentium (and especially Celeron) for gaming. The i3 or FX 4300 is minimum for gaming.

Why is Anandtech so obsessed with Intel that they would seriously recommend a Pentium? FFS.

 

[UaVaj]

Do not, under any circumstances, consider a Pentium (and especially Celeron) for gaming. The i3 or FX 4300 is minimum for gaming.

Why is Anandtech so obsessed with Intel that they would seriously recommend a Pentium? FFS.

you buying this for you or you giving the original poster "unbias" recommendation based on his/her situation?

which part of "help me b/w these two setups" and which part of "I DONT HVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS" did you NOT comprehend??

 

[AnonymouseUser]

you buying this for you or you giving the original poster "unbias" recommendation based on his/her situation?

which part of "help me b/w these two setups" and which part of "I DONT HVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS" did you NOT comprehend??

I'm giving general advice for anyone looking to build a gaming PC. That is that dual-core CPUs are no good for gaming anymore. PERIOD. In this case, that means that if the OP only has the i3 or Pentium to choose from, the i3 is the only choice. An i3 + 7770 will give better overall gaming experience than a Pentium + 7850 because it won't stu-stu-stu-stutter.

 

[lagokc]

I'm giving general advice for anyone looking to build a gaming PC. That is that dual-core CPUs are no good for gaming anymore. PERIOD. In this case, that means that if the OP only has the i3 or Pentium to choose from, the i3 is the only choice. An i3 + 7770 will give better overall gaming experience than a Pentium + 7850 because it won't stu-stu-stu-stutter.

What games are you talking about exactly? My HTPC's Pentium G2020 runs everything I throw at it quite well. The only thing that tempted me to get a quad-core instead was that it would speed up video converting.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

BF3 is one of the most notorious, but most new games are demanding 4 threads minimum.

The Pentium G860 is terrible for Far Cry 3.

Source

The Tech Report says this about the Pentium:

Just make sure that CPU isn't the Pentium G2120, whose woeful performance in a couple tests proved to us that you probably do need 3-4 cores, or at least threads—or, you know, maybe AVX and higher self-esteem—to run today's games optimally.

TechSpot says this about dual cores in general:

Looking at the performance of various processors and platforms, it's safe to say you'll want to play Crysis 3 with a quad-core processor -- and not just any old quad-core like the Athlon II X4. It'll need some muscle.

There is no justification for choosing the Pentium for modern games.

 

[lagokc]

How is it that the A4-3400 beats the FX-8350 and i5-3550? I think something is wrong with the testing methodology.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

How is it that the A4-3400 beats the FX-8350 and i5-3550? I think something is wrong with the testing methodology.

Read this page and see if that helps. You can have low frame rate with low latency between frames (as in the case of the A4), and higher frame rate with higher latency between frames (as in the case of the Pentium).

Raw frame times aren't the end-all in performance analysis because high frame rates have low corresponding frame times and low frame rates have high frame times. What we're trying to look closely at is the lag that exists between consecutive frames in the graphics output. This is something we'll dedicate an article to in the near future. However, the consecutive frame rate latency chart we're introducing today includes the average time difference between consecutive frames, the 75th percentile time difference between consecutive frames, and the 95th percentile time difference between consecutive frames. Percentiles show us how bad things get, on average, over a larger sample. As a case in point, the 75th percentile result shows us the longest lag between consecutive frames that we see 75 percent of the time, and so on with the 95th percentile.

 

[UaVaj]

There is no justification for choosing the Pentium for modern games.

agree with you 101%, however you are completely missing the point here.

the original post did not ask "which cpu/gpu is good for modern games".
instead
the original post ask "which of the two package works best for games listed (which are modern games)".

this is what we have to work with. not an open budget for i7-3770k + 680sli.

out of those two configurations on post #1 and the list of games (which are more gpu intensive than cpu), hence the g860 w/ the 7850 is overall the better balanced configuration.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I'm giving general advice for anyone looking to build a gaming PC. That is that dual-core CPUs are no good for gaming anymore. PERIOD. In this case, that means that if the OP only has the i3 or Pentium to choose from, the i3 is the only choice. An i3 + 7770 will give better overall gaming experience than a Pentium + 7850 because it won't stu-stu-stu-stutter.

That is simply not true. A hyperthreaded dual core is adequate for any current game and more than adequate for older games.

If it is "no good" "period", why is the i3 still on the recommended list at TH for best gaming CPUs for the money?

And yes he did address the more threaded nature of games by removing the pentium and replacing it with some quad phenoms from AMD.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

agree with you 101%, however you are completely missing the point here.

the original post did not ask "which cpu/gpu is good for modern games".
instead
the original post ask "which of the two package works best for games listed (which are modern games)".

this is what we have to work with. not an open budget for i7-3770k + 680sli.

out of those two configurations on post #1 and the list of games (which are more gpu intensive than cpu), hence the g860 w/ the 7850 is overall the better balanced configuration.

You are missing the point. The Pentium is not good for those games, regardless of the GPU, therefore the i3 is the only choice possible out of the two. The Pentium will stu-stu-stutter, the i3 will not.

That is simply not true. A hyperthreaded dual core is adequate for any current game and more than adequate for older games.

If it is "no good" "period", why is the i3 still on the recommended list at TH for best gaming CPUs for the money?

And yes he did address the more threaded nature of games by removing the pentium and replacing it with some quad phenoms from AMD.

Dual core + HT (4 threads) is not the same as dual core (2 threads). Dual core is not good for gaming, dual core + HT is still acceptable.

 

[frozentundra123456]

You are missing the point. The Pentium is not good for those games, regardless of the GPU, therefore the i3 is the only choice possible out of the two. The Pentium will stu-stu-stutter, the i3 will not.



Dual core + HT (4 threads) is not the same as dual core (2 threads). Dual core is not good for gaming, dual core + HT is still acceptable.

OK, I will accept that. The post I quoted did not make that distinction however, an i3 even with hyperthreading is still a dual core.

 

[UaVaj]

done replying to you. CNFS!

you need to go back to reading comprehension class.
or
perhap my fault for not realizing your posting to yourself and not to the OP. (thanks for verifying your high post count)

probably the latter.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

done replying to you. CNFS!

you need to go back to reading comprehension class.
or
perhap my fault for not realizing your posting to yourself and not to the OP. (thanks for verifying your high post count)

probably the latter.

If you s-s-seriously can't comprehend why a P-P-Pentium should never be recommended for a m-m-modern gaming PC, then please, add me to th-th-this.

 

[nightspydk]

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[Steltek]

Honestly, you haven't provided enough information for us to make a valid comparison. Why are you limited to ONLY these two configurations? Where are you buying (i.e. in the US, overseas, etc) and are you buying new or used? What resolution do you intend to run (i.e. are you gaming at above 1080p, 1080p, or below 1080p resolution)? Are you limited to these specific choices by budget, or by other factors?

In general, when in doubt, gamers should always go with the more powerful graphics card. Here, the 7850 is significantly more powerful than the 7770 (sure, you could overclock the 7770, but you could also overclock the 7850 as well so the performance gap remains). However, with the Pentium G680, you are likely going to be performance bottlenecked at the CPU in significantly more games than you would with the i3. And, honestly, it is doubtful that either of these options will remain viable for 2 years (the G680 even less likely so than the i3).

I do agree with SM625 that the 7850 together with even a used i3 would definitely be infinitely preferable to the 7850 and a Pentium G680, if you can find one from a trustworthy source.

FWIW, my 2¢. . . .