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Pentium or Amd?
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Jeff7181
Lifer
Open can... worms everywhere!!! :Q
Ok... I'm going to try to avoid being partial to one vs. the other.
If the cost is your concern, go onto a website like newegg.com or googlegear.com and find an AMD processor in your price range. Lets say it's an XP2400. You'll need a motherboard to go with it... preferably an nForce2 board. So you're lookin at about $110 for a Retail XP2400 and about $145 for an Asus A7N8X Deluxe nForce2 motherboard. So that's $255 for an AMD CPU/mobo combo.
Now look for a Retail P4 2.4 Ghz 533 Mhz bus, $159... and a motherboard for it... I don't know anything about Intel motherboard, so... I'll go with the same brand, Asus, and choose what looks to be comparable in terms of features. The Asus P4G8X Deluxe for $189... that's a total of $348.
Like I said, I know nothing about Intel motherboards, so if someone knows of a more comparable solution than that, please point it out.
By the way... the prices I listed are from newegg.com.
Ok... I'm going to try to avoid being partial to one vs. the other.
If the cost is your concern, go onto a website like newegg.com or googlegear.com and find an AMD processor in your price range. Lets say it's an XP2400. You'll need a motherboard to go with it... preferably an nForce2 board. So you're lookin at about $110 for a Retail XP2400 and about $145 for an Asus A7N8X Deluxe nForce2 motherboard. So that's $255 for an AMD CPU/mobo combo.
Now look for a Retail P4 2.4 Ghz 533 Mhz bus, $159... and a motherboard for it... I don't know anything about Intel motherboard, so... I'll go with the same brand, Asus, and choose what looks to be comparable in terms of features. The Asus P4G8X Deluxe for $189... that's a total of $348.
Like I said, I know nothing about Intel motherboards, so if someone knows of a more comparable solution than that, please point it out.
By the way... the prices I listed are from newegg.com.
Jeff7181
Lifer
If you're playing games, the video card is of more concern than the CPU.
You need to be a little more specific about what you want... are you looking for top of the line? You said price isn't a concern. So is it safe to assume you want the best of everything? Or are you looking for most bang for your buck?
mechBgon
Super Moderator<br>Elite Member
Hehe, if you want to spend money on something useful, do consider a dual-monitor setup. If you've got the funds and don't need vast quantities of hard-drive space, you might consider spending ~$300 on an 18Gb Seagate Cheetah 15k.3 and an LSI Logic U160 controller kit too... five-year warranty, very very very fast, and quiet too! 🙂
The EPoX 8RGA+ happens to have onboard dual-head video courtesy of its onboard GeForce4MX video processor, so if you wanted a dual-monitor setup, you might think about an 8RGA+ with a 2400+ or thereabouts. If you go this route, definitely pick up two memory modules so you can take advantage of the dual-DDR feature... the onboard video's gaming performance will really hinge on having that extra bandwidth.
Intel-wise, you might consider an i845PE board like one of the Asus P4PE family, with a Northwood-core Pentium4.
The EPoX 8RGA+ happens to have onboard dual-head video courtesy of its onboard GeForce4MX video processor, so if you wanted a dual-monitor setup, you might think about an 8RGA+ with a 2400+ or thereabouts. If you go this route, definitely pick up two memory modules so you can take advantage of the dual-DDR feature... the onboard video's gaming performance will really hinge on having that extra bandwidth.
Intel-wise, you might consider an i845PE board like one of the Asus P4PE family, with a Northwood-core Pentium4.
AMD right now is better for office and daily programs
Intel right now is better for video editing/programs that use SSE2 (very few do)
Overall I think AMD with a nForce2 board offers the best all round performance. Top that off with a Radeon 9500/9700 and you got a banging system.
Intel right now is better for video editing/programs that use SSE2 (very few do)
Overall I think AMD with a nForce2 board offers the best all round performance. Top that off with a Radeon 9500/9700 and you got a banging system.
I second that with the dual monitor. AWESOME! I'm using it with a 17" and a 15" monitor, just GREAT! But you don't need 2 video cards, I'm using a GF2MX and for the second monitor a Tseng Labs ET6000... as long as it still works at ok refresh rates and resolutions its ok. Or if you like good quality, get a good Matrox on eBay. The Parhelia could be interesting if you have a lot of money to spend and gaming is not SO important... (its still a very decent card).
If you can live with overclocking, a well cooled Athlon XP1700+ with JIUHB stepping (should do at least 2600+) would be probably the most bang for your buck... get a nForce 2 board, Asus A7N8X Deluxe for the most features, Abit NF7-S for most features of the Asus but a much lower price.
If you can live with overclocking, a well cooled Athlon XP1700+ with JIUHB stepping (should do at least 2600+) would be probably the most bang for your buck... get a nForce 2 board, Asus A7N8X Deluxe for the most features, Abit NF7-S for most features of the Asus but a much lower price.
YoungChowFun
Member
Shoot man, if price doesn't matter, why not go top of the line already? I think the intel 3ghz w/ 800mhz fsb can pretty much be considered top of the line right now. The new 875p chipset motherboards seem to be doing pretty well. Throw in a 9800pro and some good ram, and that is just one of my 'Dream Machines.' But an intel 3ghz w/800mhz fsb and an 875p motherboard will be more then enough for your daily tasks, gaming, video editing, etc. (I don't know if they are available yet though, but check it out as soon as they are.)
agreed!
Intel also perform well with high memory bandwidth intensive games like quake.
If it wasn't for sse2 Intel would be nowhere when it comes to number crunching. Just look at the FPU scores in sandra.
Almost none of the mainstream software use sse2, so intel is good for almost nothing.
Go for an Asus A7N8X Deluxe nForce2 board, amd xp3000+ cpu, Corsair Twinx CL2 PC3200 & Radeon9700 8x AGP card and you'll be the fastest kid on the block.
PS: Just make sure to get a made by ATI radeon and not a powered by ATI card.
SinfulWeeper
Diamond Member
If you are starting from scratch on build your computer, there will be no price differences on the system cost unless you go with a low end AMD setup. If your into new gaming/video editting (or planning to). Go with the Intel platform.
If your going to be doing office work with say... M$ Office, go with the AMD setup.
If computer noise is a issue to you, go with the Intel setup as you will have to get quieter better cooling on the AMD setup and lose any money it saves you.
If you are OC'ing, it is a toss-up. The low end 1700+'s seem to OC well. But then again it seems all of Intels CPU's OC very well.
Personally for my own computer I would build a P4 platform unless the AMD displayed a clear advantage.
If your going to be doing office work with say... M$ Office, go with the AMD setup.
If computer noise is a issue to you, go with the Intel setup as you will have to get quieter better cooling on the AMD setup and lose any money it saves you.
If you are OC'ing, it is a toss-up. The low end 1700+'s seem to OC well. But then again it seems all of Intels CPU's OC very well.
Personally for my own computer I would build a P4 platform unless the AMD displayed a clear advantage.
What a load!
Good for nothing??
Jeff7181
Lifer
No doubt Intel holds the absolute performance crown... however, I still think AMD provides better value for people on a budget. AMD also provides the best "General Usage" performance, as shown in the link that was provided in the post preceeding this one.
Try to keep the "my dad can beat up your dad" stuff to a minimum though... someone was asking for opinions on what he/she should get... not asking for people to try to prove their opinion is better than someone else's.
Try to keep the "my dad can beat up your dad" stuff to a minimum though... someone was asking for opinions on what he/she should get... not asking for people to try to prove their opinion is better than someone else's.
AMD does provide great value, no doubt. The "Intel is good for nothing" is AMD fanboy cr@p. FWIW, I use most of what is on that review. I use MS Office every day, Powerpoint mostly, Word, Excel, Outlook. I also play games (BF1942 currently is my favorite), and I do MPEG2 Video encoding. Which do I care about the least as far as performance goes? Office. You can only be so fast with Word and PowerPoint. It doesn't really matter. Huge Excel number crunching may be the only exception. Games are much more demanding, and Video encoding even more so. Converting a 1 Hr video from my camcorder to DVD MPEG 2 format takes just over 2 Hrs. A friend of mine with a low end Celeron system takes 9 to do the same thing. I'll take every bit of performance I can for that app.
Dont tell me we're going to need a sticky here too like we have in general hardware?🙁
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