Pentium M

[EightySix Four]

Why hasn't anyone created an adapter socket, or a mainboard that supports Pentium M? The pins are the same, but in different positions. And considering the performance of the P-M, it seems like a good idea, especially for say SFF use. Is there something I'm missing that makes this hard, I know there's been adapter sockets b4, and with the performance and low power of the pentium, I'm surprised they haven't done it yet.

 

[febuld]

that's a very good idea, but I think the lack of suck an adapter socket may be attributed to Intel's efforts to keep Pentium M technology a secret. I haven't seen so many Pentium M processors for sale, either...

 

[EightySix Four]

Actually, hit up www.froogle.com and type in pentium-m, I had no problems finding them for under $400

 

[Mik3y]

newegg sells pentium M's also, but a certain chipset if required to run them, which i dont think any desktop motherboards have.

 

[EightySix Four]

no, they should be compatible with any pentium 4 chipset, I don't know if the bios would correctly id it though

 

[febuld]

nope, Pentium M's are compatible with Chipset 855. Not a standard desktop computer chipset...

 

[DrMrLordX]

I think crazy is correct. They should be able to run on a 915x/925x motherboard if the socket would accomodate them. There might need to be a proper BIOS flashed onto the board too, but otherwise . . .

 

[klah]

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...oc.aspx?i=2129&p=4

The Pentium M on the right is keyed differently than the Pentium 4 on the left. Thus, you can't put a Pentium M into a Pentium 4 socket, mobile or desktop.

That being said, there's nothing stopping a motherboard manufacturer from producing a desktop motherboard that supports the Pentium M processor - because once again, the Pentium M is electrically compatible with the Pentium 4 and should thus work with any desktop Pentium 4 chipset.

 

[Mik3y]

Crazy and DrMrLord....you just got NUB'd!

 

[DrMrLordX]

What exactly does NUB'd mean anyway?

And thanks for the link klah. I know I had seen that somewhere, but I was too lazy to look it up.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
What exactly does NUB'd mean anyway?

And thanks for the link klah. I know I had seen that somewhere, but I was too lazy to look it up.

Probably means someone made them look like a "n00b" / "Nub" ... Just more internet (geek) speak. Really quite annoying... Oh wait, it's l337sp3ak .

 

[cirthix]

from what i've heard, pentium ms are electrically compatible with socket 462, but not physically. an adapter board would definitely be feasable, and may even exist.

 

[Spikesoldier]

Originally posted by: cirthix
from what i've heard, pentium ms are electrically compatible with socket 462, but not physically. an adapter board would definitely be feasable, and may even exist.

oh god.........

 

[EightySix Four]

Originally posted by: klah
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...oc.aspx?i=2129&p=4

The Pentium M on the right is keyed differently than the Pentium 4 on the left. Thus, you can't put a Pentium M into a Pentium 4 socket, mobile or desktop.

That being said, there's nothing stopping a motherboard manufacturer from producing a desktop motherboard that supports the Pentium M processor - because once again, the Pentium M is electrically compatible with the Pentium 4 and should thus work with any desktop Pentium 4 chipset.

hehe, that's exactly what I said, the pins are technically the same, but in diff postions... adapter board... read the first post

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

DFI has a micro-ATX motherboard due out very soon that supports Pentium-M dothan chips.

here is a link

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: cirthix
from what i've heard, pentium ms are electrically compatible with socket 462, but not physically. an adapter board would definitely be feasable, and may even exist.

LoL, Socket 462? Umm, I hope you meant 478.

Socket 462 is an AMD socket (Socket A)

 

[cirthix]

doh! lol i always get confused over the simple stuff

 

[Zap]

I think one of those Anandtech articles quoted a Shuttle spokesperson as saying they were working on a SFF XPC that supported Pentium M. That would be awesome, especially if they put overclocking features into the BIOS.

I think nobody's made anything like this because of cost and demand. Sure, people into quiet computing would want one, but who else? Those Pentium M chips are really expensive, plus for the uneducated would _seem_ slower (those who think MHz = performance). As for upgrade sockets, those are typically used by people wanting to stretch out the useful life span of an older platform. That's why you'll see Tualatin adaptors and socket 478=>423 adaptors.

 

[EightySix Four]

But they really are very fast chips, according to the anandtech shootout those 2.0ghz toast a 3.2, and more than likely do to the low voltage and 400mhz fsb setup they can overclock a good range.

 

[Mingon]

Powerleap have an adaptor, but you have to buy a cpu with it.