Pentium Dual Core 2160 incompatible with TAT?

andyo

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Hi, I have built an HTPC with an Asus P5K-VM and a Pentium Dual Core 2160 1.8GHz (200x9) and I am wondering about the very inconsistent temps I'm getting. I have mildly OC'd it to 2.25 GHz (250x9) and have EIST and C1, auto voltage, but this also was an issue at stock clock.

TAT shows temps in the low 50's and high 40's even when idle, at 1500MHz (250x6 via EIST) and Vcore at 1.30V! (what Asus PC Probe and Speedfan 4.32 show, CoreTemp 0.95 shows variable voltage from 1.1875 to 1.3250 and CPU-Z from 1.075 to 1.288. I assume PC Probe is right, but also shoudn't C1 be changing Vcore as the processor speeds up and down?).

Core Temp also shows somewhat high core temps, but not as much. I only have it in the high 40's with 3-5 °C below those reported by TAT. But Speedfan 4.32 seems the one that's right, reporting low and mid-30s temps when at 250x6 in both cores, which are separate from the CPU reading, which is what the mobo reports, and it's in the high 20s in this case, the same as reported by PC Probe. System or Mobo temp is also the same in both, at 38°C.

So anyone knows for sure that TAT isn't reading these new chips' temps correctly? I think not even CoreTemp gets them right. They are just too high.

By the way, this is with the Zalman CNPS8000 cooler, and upping the fan does not much for lowering the temps in TAT, it seems that it's pretty much cooling very well at the lower RPM. It was also an issue with the stock cooler.

Any suggestions or info are much appreciated, thanks.
 

NoobyDoo

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TAT vs. speedfan inconsistencies between cores

I figured out what my problem was. TAT sucks for reading temps on C2D chips. I should have taken a hint from the application itself. If you launch it and look in the upper left under Processor Details, you'll see, "Processor: Pentium M." I just ran RMClock and Speedfan and had both apps log a set of load temps. Then I meticulously analyzed the log files and averaged the exactly (down to the last second) the same time points from each log to ensure a fair comparison. If I take the difference of the average RMClock core temp numbers and the average Speedfan numbers, I arrived at:

Core 0: 15.002
Core 1: 15.069
Core 2: 15.049
Core 3: 14.979

Conclusion: Speedfan can log temps as precisely as RMClock can and the offset is indeed -15 °C. Also, don't use TAT for a C2D or Quad C2D!