Pentium 4 overhaul set for 2005

[Adul]

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-961210.html?tag=fd_top_8

So I guess we can call it the p5

 

[DeviousTrap]

Why are they making us wait so long. I thought it would be a year to i 1/2 years at most. Arent people going to get tired of hearing PENTIUM 4.

Prescott will also come with "LeGrande," a technology intended to protect credit card numbers and other data kept on hard drives from viruses, hackers and prying eyes.

How will "LeGrande" work? I didn't think that a chip could be used to protect you from viruses. Will it not take commands from virus files? What?

 

[GTaudiophile]

Yeah, that is a long time! Maybe Intel is already thinking in a world without AMD? :disgust:

 

[ai42]

LeGrande supposedly will be on the Hammer as well and from what I understand it will be an opt in/out thing like a BIOS setting you can enable/disable. LeGrande is supposed to be some locking mechnizm that will only allow you to give out specific information to encrypted sites or something to that effect.

I'm very intrested in Dothan however, sounds like something crazy. Honestly Bianas uses 7Watts of power under full load what is Dothan? I am personally saving up for a Bianas superslim once they hit the market.

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: computer89
Why are they making us wait so long. I thought it would be a year to i 1/2 years at most. Arent people going to get tired of hearing PENTIUM 4.

New name != overhaul.
Lets take a look at times of previous overhauls (times gathered from here and here and here):
06/??/1977 - original 8086
06/??/1979 - 8088 - NOT an overhaul, basically its a Celeron version of 8086
5 years
02/??/1982 - 80286
4 years
08/??/1986 - 80386 - biggest overhaul to date, includes addition of protected modes & MMU features in use by today's OSes
06/01/1988 - 80386SX - NOT an overhaul, basically Celeron version of 80386 (DX) <- got date from google of no longer existing page LOL
3 years
??/??/1989 - 80486
4 years
03/22/1993 - Pentium - HUGE overhaul, includes move to 64-bit bus
2 years
01/11/1995 - Pentium Pro - overhaul - this one is close to previous because they were developed in parallel
01/08/1997 - Pentium MMX - NOT an overhaul just new instructions
02/04/1997 - K6 - yeah, not intel chip, just wanted to point out it was realeased around Pent MMX time not PIII time seen lots of suggestions otherwise lately.
05/07/1997 - Pentium II (Klamath) - NOT an overhaul just a new instruction set added to PPro & new form factor/slower cache
02/26/1999 - Pentium III (Katmai) - NOT an overhaul just a new instruction set. In fact due to reduced cache speed on this first rev it was actually SLOWER on non-SSE applications than a Pentium II
5 years
11/20/2000 - Pentium 4

As you can see, the true overhauls are always years apart, so 2005 really isn't at all unexpected.

 

[Maverick]

so are they gonna call it the hexium?

 

[Vic]

The writer of that article has very little idea of what he is talking about, beyond informing us of Intel's future designs. For example:

features such as improved power management that will mark it as a distinct evolutionary step, similar to the changeover from the Pentium II to the Pentium III

P2 to P3 was not "a distinct evolutionary step." They are both considered 686's and are virtually identical in core design. There were differences (like "flip-chip," the inclusion of the L2 cache on die for CuMines, and the after-the-first-P3's-were-released die reduction to 0.18u), but I would not call it "a distinct evolutionary step." Now if the writer wanted to call the transition from the P3 to P4 "a distinct evolutionary step," I would agree.

Also, the "security" technology is spelt La Grande and is named after a town in Eastern Oregon. I had heard that it was coming out well before '05 so this delay is somewhat of a surprise. There are differing opinions about what it is about, but it is generally believed that it will be more benign and beneficial for the consumer than MS' Palladium technology (which is what the Hammer will support supposedly) or anything the RIAA/MPAA would want. Not that I'm fan of any of them...

Nehalem (pronounced na-HEY-lem, kind of like Salem but with a "na" at the beginning and an H instead of the S) is also a town (and a river and a bay) in Oregon, this one on the NW coast. Intel tradition is to code-name new technologies for landmarks, natural features, and towns near the Intel lab that initially designed that technology. Intel's largest operations and R&D facility is located in Hillsboro, OR, 20 miles west of Portland.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Is La Grande an offshoot of Palladium or a replacement, due to the flak they are getting from everyone even though it's not implemented yet?

 

[glugglug]

Palladium is a future version of Windows which will support TCPA (Total Computing Privacy Annihilation)

LaGrande is new chip instructions for TCPA support (I think).

 

[Vic]

LOL! Actually TCPA is an Intel-and-its-partners-only thing and stands for Trusted Computing Platform Alliance
Palladium is a competing version of the this Big Brother technology made by MS. One of the reasons why MS has come around to AMD so much in the past couple of years (WinXP, for example, was the first version of Windows that was finally for once fully compatible with AMD products) is that AMD has vouched complete support for Palladium and not necessarily TCPA. It is this ironic twist that almost has me buying Intel again, although I'm going to wait for a while and see how it all pans out.