pentium 4 extreme edition to be extremely expensive?

[draggoon01]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20031009073403.html

In case the unofficial report is correct and the chip is to be priced at $925 in quantities starting from 1000 units, its retail pricing will be about $1000, even higher than we originally suggested.

 

[GoHAnSoN]

um....who cares ?
maybe u should look left ??
<--------- *here

 

[Chaotic42]

Wow, this is like how it was back in the 90s. New top of the line processors near a grand.

 

[Nebor]

Meanwhile an AMD 2500+, generating 80% of the performance can be had for 10x less money.

 

[Bovinicus]

I could build a decent computer for the price of that CPU...

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Wow, this is like how it was back in the 90s. New top of the line processors near a grand.

Ummm maybe Im mistaken but didnt the 1Ghz chip from AMD come out in like mid/late 2000. And IIRC it was over a grand when first released.

 

[dowxp]

oh look there's a troll.

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: dowxp
oh look there's a troll.

:Q


*busts out troll hunting gear*

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: dowxp
oh look there's a troll.

I see a couple of trolls. Which one were you talking about?

I think $925 is a stretch for Intel. However I disagree with Xbitlabs thinking that retail will stay that far above the 1000 lot price. It sure will likely start there, but soon will likely drop down to close to the 1000 lot price.

GoHAnSoN, I don't have a clue what your post means.

Chaotic42, the peak for AMD was 1999 and 2000. I don't know when the peak Intel pricing was, does anyone have good links to this info? It is a bad trend though with high priced Athlon 64s and high priced Intel P4EEs. The average computer now costs $700 (including everything). Companies need to realize that they will never get the average consumer to start buying $700+ chips again.

Nebor, the same can be said when comparing to the Athlon FX...

Bovinicus, yep as I said above.

Digitalsm, AMD chip prices peaked with the March 6, 2000 release of the 1000 MHz chip. Its price? $1299, with street prices higher.

 

[Nebor]

Nebor, the same can be said when comparing to the Athlon FX...

I agree. Neither are practical.

 

[DaveSimmons]

I haven't gotten to building my new system yet, so I'm most happy about the upcoming price drops to the more sanely priced chips -- a P4 3.0C for under $300 seems fairly reasonable to me, since I paid close to that for a p2 266 MHz back in '98

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Bovinicus
I could build a decent computer for the price of that CPU...

With a bit of ocing I did that....for half the price...

As an intel user and a user of programs that don't take advantage of the l3 cache I can care less!!! INtel plays that game and they don't sell many of them. I think the price will come down to the high 700's low 800's rather quick...Still would never ever buy one!!!

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: dowxp
oh look there's a troll.

I see a couple of trolls. Which one were you talking about?

I think $925 is a stretch for Intel. However I disagree with Xbitlabs thinking that retail will stay that far above the 1000 lot price. It sure will likely start there, but soon will likely drop down to close to the 1000 lot price.

GoHAnSoN, I don't have a clue what your post means.

Chaotic42, the peak for AMD was 1999 and 2000. I don't know when the peak Intel pricing was, does anyone have good links to this info? It is a bad trend though with high priced Athlon 64s and high priced Intel P4EEs. The average computer now costs $700 (including everything). Companies need to realize that they will never get the average consumer to start buying $700+ chips again.

Nebor, the same can be said when comparing to the Athlon FX...

Bovinicus, yep as I said above.

Digitalsm, AMD chip prices peaked with the March 6, 2000 release of the 1000 MHz chip. Its price? $1299, with street prices higher.

You mean the avg low end system. The highend bleeding edge have remained fairly constent.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I haven't gotten to building my new system yet, so I'm most happy about the upcoming price drops to the more sanely priced chips -- a P4 3.0C for under $300 seems fairly reasonable to me, since I paid close to that for a p2 266 MHz back in '98

a P4C won't be under $300, it will be under $400. At least I think that's right. I paid $479 for mine shortly after they came out @ Fry's.

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: dowxp
oh look there's a troll.

I see a couple of trolls. Which one were you talking about?

Chaotic42, the peak for AMD was 1999 and 2000. I don't know when the peak Intel pricing was, does anyone have good links to this info? It is a bad trend though with high priced Athlon 64s and high priced Intel P4EEs. The average computer now costs $700 (including everything). Companies need to realize that they will never get the average consumer to start buying $700+ chips again.

Best I could find on Intel CPU pricing at one point in early Feb. 2000

Since last we took a look at this market there have been some major changes. First of all we see the introduction of seven new processors on the list. Most notably are the Athlon 850 and Pentium 3 750/800. They also come at a high price, especially the Pentium 3 800 ($1002!). Those must really be scarse in order for someone to charge that much fore one. Be careful its not one of those overpriced Xeons. In any case its good to see that they have finally made it to the retail channels.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: digitalsm
You mean the avg low end system. The highend bleeding edge have remained fairly constent.

No I mean, the average computer - low end average is signficantly less than that. Link. Read the last two paragraphs:

"But desktop PCs look likely to continue to be a tough market for manufacturers, as most sales now come in well below $1,000, making it more difficult to squeeze out a profit. The average retail price of a desktop PC in August was $725, only slightly higher than last February's all-time-low of $717.

During August, 45 percent of desktops sold in stores were priced at $600 or less, according to Baker."

The high end systems have also come down since the year 2000, but I don't have any recent links of such data.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I haven't gotten to building my new system yet, so I'm most happy about the upcoming price drops to the more sanely priced chips -- a P4 3.0C for under $300 seems fairly reasonable to me, since I paid close to that for a p2 266 MHz back in '98

a P4C won't be under $300, it will be under $400. At least I think that's right. I paid $479 for mine shortly after they came out @ Fry's.

You're thinking 3.2C not 3.0C:
3.2C = $417
3.0C = $278

NFS4's thread

 

[Lyfer]

How exactly will the P4EE at $925 bring the prices of a P4 3.2 down?

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Lyfer
How exactly will the P4EE at $925 bring the prices of a P4 3.2 down?

It won't. Are you referring to someone's post in this thread?

 

[rubberneck]

I'd be surprised if the P4EE made up more than .10% of Intel's volume so the niche might be small enough to support the price.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Lyfer
How exactly will the P4EE at $925 bring the prices of a P4 3.2 down?

When intel introduces a new fastest chip they usually drop the prices of the slower chips. intel is adding the P4EE and 3.4C as the new fastest chips. Read the link.

 

[GoHAnSoN]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by:
GoHAnSoN, I don't have a clue what your post means.
.

just look at the ad on your left

 

[InlineFive]

Ouch. That's insanely expensive, at that price everyone will buy Athlon64 FXs. Nice going Intel.

And who cares is they add 1MB L2 to all the other 800FSB models? It wont help any...

-Por

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: GoHAnSoN
just look at the ad on your left

The ad keeps changing though, so pointing at yourself and saying *here doesn't really make much sense.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Ouch. That's insanely expensive, at that price everyone will buy Athlon64 FXs. Nice going Intel.

And who cares is they add 1MB L2 to all the other 800FSB models? It wont help any...

-Por

I think at that price and the price of Athlon64 FXs most people won't bother upgrading until the prices become reasonable.