Pentagon Whistleblower: Bush Administration Ready To Attack Iran

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Is this the October surprise that Bush is counting on to keep his party in the Oval Office? Lots of information to gleam from a former high-level Pentagon analyst who risked his life to bring accountability to our government during an era which has striking similarities to our current situation.

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By Sari Gelzer
Monday 04 February 2008

Daniel Ellsberg, perhaps the country's most famous whistleblower, fears that before the Bush administration leaves office they will try to attack Iran.

Indeed, Ellsberg's argument gained merit as George W. Bush increased his rhetoric against Iran when he delivered his final State of the Union Address. Bush accused Iran of training militia extremists in Iraq, and emphasized the US will confront its enemies.

In a wide-ranging interview with Truthout, Ellsberg uses insight from his experience as a Pentagon analyst under the Lyndon B. Johnson, and later, the Nixon administration, to discuss Bush's plans to begin a war with Iran, the role of the press to give whistleblowers exposure, and how American democracy can be restored.

Due to Ellsberg's experience working within the government, I wanted his insight into how the Bush administration is attempting to begin a war with Iran.

When I highlight his experience working for Secretary of Defense Robert Macnamara in 1965 to draft a speech with the goal of rationalizing and gaining public support for the Vietnam War, Ellsberg gives a very long sigh.

"That was not my finest hour that I look back on. That was something that I am ashamed of," he tells me, with a heavy heart.

Ellsberg wishes he spoke out against the Vietnam War sooner. As a civilian working for the government, he says his oath was always to the Constitution and he violated that oath until the day he decided to leak the Pentagon Papers in 1971, to reveal the war was unlawful.

Ellsberg now spends his time ardently encouraging and supporting whistleblowers to come forward when they see constitutional violations. He emphasizes the importance of documents as evidence, and of timeliness, so lies are exposed before an actual war occurs.

Pending War With Iran or Gulf of Tonkin Deja Vu

The recent announcement in December by the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) revealed, counter to the president's claims, Iran did not have an active nuclear program. This was unexpected, says Ellsberg.

The administration had said, weeks before this release, they had no intention of putting out NIE summaries, Ellsberg says. However, the information was released because, according to newspaper reports, there was the threat of leaks:

"As one news story put it, intelligence officials were lined up to go to jail, if the administration did not release those findings," says Ellsberg, emphasizing his creed in the need to take risks for the sake of revealing truth.

"I wish I could say it made an attack on Iran zero, and it hasn't, but it has reduced it and confirms, in my opinion, the power of being willing to risk prosecution, willing to give up your career, your clearance, which these people would have done if they'd put that information out - and the mere threat was enough to get it out in this case," emphasizes Ellsberg.

Ellsberg says Bush will simply find a different pretext from the nuclear program.

"After all, it was about a year ago that he really stopped pressing the nuclear program as the main reason to start attacking Iran and start talking about what they were doing against US forces in Iraq," says Ellsberg, who claims people in the military have recently undercut this statement by saying there is no evidence of Iran's involvement against US forces in Iraq.

Bush could also use an incident that is blamed on Iran as a means to begin a war with them.

Early this year, Ellsberg experienced deja vu when the white house and a complicit media portrayed an incident in the Strait of Hormuz that deeply paralleled the Tonkin Gulf Incident of 1964.

The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was an alleged attack by North Vietnamese ships upon American boats. As a result of this alleged aggression, Congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which gave former President Johnson the permission to expand the Vietnam War.

The recent incident involving Iran alleged serious threats were being made to US ships by Iranian speedboats. Within days of the events in the Straight of Hormuz, information revealed the details of the entire event had been fabricated. Ellsberg sees promise in the quickness of this revelation because, in contrast, it was only in 2005 and 2008 the inaccuracies and deceptions of the Gulf of Tonkin incident were revealed by the declassification of National Security Administration reports.

Ellsberg is worried Congress has not put forth an effort to demand they be informed before an attack on Iran should occur. Currently, there is a Senate resolution to demand Congress be consulted in the event of plans to attack Iran, but it has not gotten out of committee.

Instead, the Senate has virtually endorsed the president's power to begin a war with Iran, says Ellsberg, with the passage of legislation last September declaring Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps is a terrorist organization.

"To say that the Revolutionary Guards in Iran are a terrorist organization ... is very close to saying that the president is able to attack them at his discretion. Now to give this president that discretion is inexcusable, outrageous," says Ellsberg.

The Democratic Congress should be having open hearings on Iran, says Ellsberg, as well as on how we got into the war against Iraq, and regarding Guantanamo. But the Democratic chairmen are not holding such hearings.

The American public, and media in general, have not picked up on the urgency surrounding a pending war with Iran, Ellsberg says. For over two years, Sy Hersh and others have been writing detailed articles stating operational plans against Iran are being updated to the minute, so that within hours or a day they can be implemented.

The problem with these articles, says Ellsberg, is not that Hersh, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, lacks credibility, it's that his sources are not willing to go beyond their anonymity. Ellsberg emphasizes the sources in Sy Hersh's reports, and others within the government, must reveal documents, risk their career and testify before Congress, if they wish to profoundly alter the course of a pending war with Iran.

Gateway for Whistleblowers: The Press

Whistleblowers depend strongly on the press to relay their information to the American public, who will then be able to exert pressure in politics. When I ask Ellsberg if he believes the press is doing a good job of this, he gives me the most matter-of-fact answer of the evening: "No."

In October of 2004, whistleblowers gave The New York Times knowledge of an illegal and unconstitutional domestic spying program that was being carried out by the US government. The newspaper waited a year to reveal this information.

This was not just any year, says Ellsberg, they held this information at the request of the White House till after the 2004 election, avoiding the possible impact it could have had in swaying voters.

The New York Times, says Ellsberg, was pressured to publish the article because their internal reporter, James Risen, was going to release a book regarding The New York Times's choice to remain silent at the request of the White House.

The New York Times received a Pulitzer Prize for releasing this story. Ellsberg, shares that he believes not only reporters, but whistleblowers, too, who reveal important information should receive a prize in recognition of their public service. This is not a retroactive attempt on his part, he says, to receive an award.

Ellsberg smiles. "In my case my prize was the indictment," which he says he has taken to be as great an honor as he needs in life.

The press in America, says Ellsberg, is currently avoiding the story of an explosive whistleblower by the name of Sibel Edmonds. A former FBI translator of Turkish and Persian, he says she has been attempting to speak before Congress for five years.

Early last month, Sibel Edmonds appeared on the front page of the London Sunday Times to reveal information she learned as an FBI employee. Ellsberg describes her claims, that the US government is giving nuclear materials, equipment, and techniques to countries, including Turkey, which in turn sell them to other countries, including Pakistan. In effect, says Ellsberg, there is criminal bribery going on.

Ellsberg says Edmonds is also revealing the US government is allowing a drug trade that finances terrorist operations, such as al-Qaeda, to continue. Ellsberg describes her revelations further, saying the US government is turning a blind eye to the drug trade of US allies such as Turkey and Pakistan, as well as to countries such as Uzbekistan, where the government wants to gain military base rights.

These allegations or only part of the knowledge Edmonds wishes to share before Congress, and she awaits the chance to do so, claiming she has people in the FBI, CIA and NSA who will corroborate her statements, says Ellsberg.

This is in direct parallel, says Ellsberg, to what happened to Katharine Gun, a British whistleblower whose actions, he believes, were more important then the release of the Pentagon Papers, because she gave information at a time that could have prevented the Iraq war.

Gun, who worked as an employee for British Intelligence, Government Communication Headquarters, revealed a document showing the US was "tapping the UN security council members in order to influence their votes in support of an aggressive war, which was about to take place," says Ellsberg.

This was front-page news, not only in London, says Ellsberg, but all over the world, except the US, where it did not appear for about 11 months. Ellsberg says it was reasonable to believe she could have stopped the war, and he believes she prevented the UN Security Council vote in support of the war.

"The same thing is happening to Sibel Edmonds as we speak," says Ellsberg, intensely.

How to Restore American Democracy

As the days of Bush's final term in office dwindle, Ellsberg emphasizes that no matter how much time is left, impeachment is one thing that must happen for the sake of preserving American democracy.

Impeachment proceedings are essential, says Ellsberg, "both for the information that it will produce and above all to make it clear that Congress perceives the illegal and unconstitutional acts taken by this administration to be high crimes and misdemeanors, and for the deterrent effect that will have on future presidents."

In addition to impeachment hearings, Ellsberg says Congress must reverse the laws that have "outrageously" passed under "intimidation" by Bush. These include say Ellsberg: "The patriot act, the military commission act, which among other things essentially denies habeaus corpus, the signing statements, which essentially gives the president the power to ignore constraints on torture, and they could change the so-called Protect America Act which legalized much of the unconstitutional surveillance that the NSA was doing without congress even knowing what they were legalizing."

For those things that Congress cannot overturn, Ellsberg suggests hearings held by Congress to show, for example, that "not only was torture illegal, it should continue to be illegal because it hurts our national security."

None of these changes will happen without an active American movement, says Ellsberg, which must demand Congress uphold their oath to support the Constitution rather than their political careers.

Looking at the current primaries and the future presidential election, Ellsberg says the American public must create priorities that are different from those offered by the current candidates.

The changes that need to occur are drastic, and given the stakes, Ellsberg believes the American public should be willing to invest their time, so the crisis we currently find ourselves in can be met with strong action:

"If enough people simply look clearly at what we are doing in our course towards an abyss right now, they do have the power with the remaining democracy we have still in this country to turn it around."

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Corbett

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Considering the OPs views on 9/11. I would say this is just another conspiracy thread.

Edit : And that link isnt very credible either.
 

blackangst1

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I sincerely doubt we'll do anything with Iran At the very MOST maybe a carpet bombing of known nuclear facilities. We certainly wont put troops on the ground for that.
 

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Considering the OPs views on 9/11. I would say this is just another conspiracy thread.
Attacking the messenger. A typical tactic of someone who can't attack the message.

Edit : And that link isnt very credible either.
I'm curious; what makes you more qualified on the subject than someone who worked with above-top-secret security clearance for the Pentagon?

Who would be credible in your eyes? Ari Fleischer? :laugh:
 

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For someone that has been out of the Federal government for 35 years, everything that he is stating is based on supposition and not fact.

He has no knowledge of what is happening within the Bush adminstration.

His ideas can be considered as valid as anyone elses.

Heck, I was in the Pentagon only 25 years ago - maybe my knowledge is as good as his.

And have we not had another anti-war whistle blower that has been stating every 3 months or so that we are heading into Iran for an attack.
Then when it does not happen, the statement is because the plans were exposed.

 

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Then when it does not happen, the statement is because the plans were exposed.
The NIE revelation about Iran's lack of a nuclear weapons program was a pretty big bomb dropped on the Bush administration.

Makes you wonder where we would be right now if the NIE didn't expose our government's lies.
 

Pabster

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Congratulations, OP. You've taken the tin-foil crown from Dave.

For future reference, avoid citing far-left kookshit blogs. Thanks.
 

alchemize

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Here's some more straws for you to grasp at.


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However, I am enjoying watching you go off the deep end.


 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Here's some more straws for you to grasp at.


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However, I am enjoying watching you go off the deep end.

Thats funny as hell lol
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Corbett
Considering the OPs views on 9/11. I would say this is just another conspiracy thread.
Attacking the messenger. A typical tactic of someone who can't attack the message.

Edit : And that link isnt very credible either.
I'm curious; what makes you more qualified on the subject than someone who worked with above-top-secret security clearance for the Pentagon?

Who would be credible in your eyes? Ari Fleischer? :laugh:

why not attack the messenger...when ther messenger isn`t exactly a credible messenger...ie---- 9/11 conspiracy...sad
 

ProfJohn

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Truthout also claimed that Rove was about to be taken out of the White House in hand cuffs.... still waiting for that to happen :roll:
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Truthout also claimed that Rove was about to be taken out of the White House in hand cuffs.... still waiting for that to happen :roll:

:laugh:

What a bunch of kooks.
 
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What's this, like the tenth time Truthout has made this wacky claim, always using a lame appeal to authority and citing weak rationales?

I have to admire their spunk though. If at first you don't succeed, fail and fail again.
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Setting aside the story and its spin, attacking and destabilizing Iran would not prove to be much of a challenge. They have a lot of good targets worthy of our multi million dollar munitions. If we do,,,, we do.
 

Jhhnn

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The situation still bears watching. While the Bush Admin hasn't yet created the rationale for attacking the Iranians, the desire is obviously there.

As with the invasion of Iraq, all they seek is plausible justification- reason has nothing to do with it...

 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
I sincerely doubt we'll do anything with Iran At the very MOST maybe a carpet bombing of known nuclear facilities. We certainly wont put troops on the ground for that.
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Anyone who knows anything about Iran knows a carpet bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities
would be at best futile. Iran ain't dumb and they have buried their facilities deep underground.

There is a lot of debate if even the most powerful of our conventional explosive powered bunker busting bombs can penetrate that deep. And therefore it may take nuclear powered bunker busters to do any real damage.

It may be possible to dismiss Ellsberg as a single kook, but Ellsberg is not the only one sounding alarm bells. We have reliable but dated reports that the CIA has transferred many additional personnel to the Iranian desks, we still have air craft carriers stationed very near to Iran, and many reports that Cheney is just itching to attack Iran.

Means, motive, and opportunity are all there in spades. Only the highly dubious sanity of GWB stands in the way. And at any second, GWB could say go.

To counterbalance that is a large number of very good reasons why a US attack on Iran would be totally irrational. But all those good reasons mean nothing
if GWB ignores them and does it anyway. Anyone who relies on GWB to be rational has been too busy eating happy pills to watch GWB and his inability to learn from past mistakes.

Yes, I somewhat dismiss this latest Ellsberg warning, but no I do not dismiss it lightly either. And I will not rest easy until my backward Bush watch ticks to zero and we hopefully
get a rational President on 1/20/2009.
 

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Corbett
Considering the OPs views on 9/11. I would say this is just another conspiracy thread.
Attacking the messenger. A typical tactic of someone who can't attack the message.

Edit : And that link isnt very credible either.
I'm curious; what makes you more qualified on the subject than someone who worked with above-top-secret security clearance for the Pentagon?

Who would be credible in your eyes? Ari Fleischer? :laugh:

why not attack the messenger...when ther messenger isn`t exactly a credible messenger...ie---- 9/11 conspiracy...sad

Gee, I don't know...something in the AT rules about no personal attacks? Might be one reason why not to do it.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
The situation still bears watching. While the Bush Admin hasn't yet created the rationale for attacking the Iranians, the desire is obviously there.

As with the invasion of Iraq, all they seek is plausible justification- reason has nothing to do with it...
But there was MONTHS of build up before we attacked Iraq.

It is VERY unlikely that we attack Iran any time soon. Iran would have to do something really bad at this point. Which I doubt will happen.
 

Lemon law

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The non Prof John delusion is---But there was MONTHS of build up before we attacked Iraq.

It is VERY unlikely that we attack Iran any time soon. Iran would have to do something really bad at this point. Which I doubt will happen.

GWB was fresh and new when he invaded Iraq using something on the order of 1000 now discredited lies to justify the invasion. And the build up was the period in which he
told the lies. And when GWB did not receive a resounding NO from either the US congress or the UN, he invaded Iraq.

And now if GWB tries a buildup of PR to justify a war with Iran, he is almost certainly going to get a firm and unequivocal oh no you don't from congress and the UN.

So non Prof John only fools himself, GWB&co had already lost ability to claim he was anything but the little boy who cried wolf.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
The situation still bears watching. While the Bush Admin hasn't yet created the rationale for attacking the Iranians, the desire is obviously there.

As with the invasion of Iraq, all they seek is plausible justification- reason has nothing to do with it...

As with Iraq, they'll likely need authorization from Congress. Which is very unlikely.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
The non Prof John delusion is---But there was MONTHS of build up before we attacked Iraq.

It is VERY unlikely that we attack Iran any time soon. Iran would have to do something really bad at this point. Which I doubt will happen.

GWB was fresh and new when he invaded Iraq using something on the order of 1000 now discredited lies to justify the invasion. And the build up was the period in which he
told the lies. And when GWB did not receive a resounding NO from either the US congress or the UN, he invaded Iraq.

And now if GWB tries a buildup of PR to justify a war with Iran, he is almost certainly going to get a firm and unequivocal oh no you don't from congress and the UN.

So non Prof John only fools himself, GWB&co had already lost ability to claim he was anything but the little boy who cried wolf.

Seriously...whats wrong with you?
 

Jhhnn

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Yeh, it took months to stage the invasion of Iraq- it'd take a lot less to start bombing Iran, stir up the hornets' nest...

Whole different story...

Claiming that such would be ill-advised, foolish and unauthorized is besides the point- the Bush Admin will do any damned fool thing they think they can get away with...
 

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, it took months to stage the invasion of Iraq- it'd take a lot less to start bombing Iran, stir up the hornets' nest...
Exactly! The months it took to build-up our invasion of Iraq was required to get all the heavy equipment necessary into the region.

Because of Iraq and Afghanistan (which both share borders with Iran), we already have all the equipment necessary to begin a large-scale attack on Iran. We have ships right off the Iranian coast waiting for the word "go".

That's why the situation is so dangerous; if we weren't in the region, a single incident between our countries could be examined. But since we're ready to strike, Bush can give the authorization without the scrutiny it deserves.