penryn vs nehalem

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: 21stHermit

Originally posted by: Dadofamunky
If I understand correctly, here is what I "know:"

Nehalem is native 32 nm, . . . . No 45 nm Nehalem.

Clearly you know not. Nehalem is 45nm. This process node, 45nm, first started shipping in Nov `07, it'll go for at least the next two years. After that we'll see 32nm.


I've seen many a double posts, but triple posts?!?!?

In all the early Nehalem forums on this site, Nehalem is noted as coming out as 32nm. They've already taped it out. Since it will have an 8-core, how do you think they could run 8 cores in a 45nm process? REALLY doubt it.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: taltamir
I thought intel was forced to give it up due to loosing a previous lawsuit. Which means that AMD does not have to pay them royalties.

Funny thing is, Intel pays AMD royalties for using Crossfire in their chipset. Wonder if that will also change when Nehalem comes out.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: Dadofamunky

Originally posted by: taltamir
I thought intel was forced to give it up due to loosing a previous lawsuit. Which means that AMD does not have to pay them royalties.

Funny thing is, Intel pays AMD royalties for using Crossfire in their chipset. Wonder if that will also change when Nehalem comes out.

Link please. Intel and ATI had a cross license agreement in place . ATI / AMD get zero dollars from intel for anything. No chipsets nothing. Now I don't know what tech they shared but Larrabee uses a ring bus memory set up also . Now did ATI help Intel . or Did intel help ATI. MY best guess would be intel helped ATi.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: THERESONATOR

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Nehalem will have memory controller on die

This comes, as I read, because AMD have this feature on the Phenom and (possibly other CPUs) its one of its better features, certainly where it has the upper hand over current Intel CPUs.

Dirk Meyers is an X dec man helped AMD with some of Decs Tech . This was one of them .

If you look up the speed of HT3 vs. Intels soon to be released version. Intel is faster. Yet its a new toy for intel . While AMD has used the tech for some time . (hammer). Intels version differs in other ways also. Its interesting development that Intel needs in the server space. If Intel keeps throwing cores onto the die they will need it on the desktop to .

Nehalem will have 8 cores but at 45nm. I think 32nm.

Gesher is supose to scale to 16 cores but @ 32nm . exspect only 8 cores. Size means alot. No way will 22nm happen on the tick year.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I follow this stuff close . Never read such a thing . Show link. Or amd is still paying threw noze. Must remember when agreement was made CPU=$$$$$.

Didn't you read the reply someone posted in your other thread? The judge awarded AMD a royalty-free cross-license agreement to Intel's IP.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I believe the settlement after it was all said and done was in 1994. Intel had already lost the case. BUT. Intel contested Because amd copyed a couple of intels naming schemes for marketing . Amd admitted it. It was at this Time AMD/Intel came to an out of court settlement . Thats when the agreement was signed. So if you could point me in direction of a later case please do so. Other than the ongoing one.