Pennzoil Platinum Synthetic Motor Oil...buy 1, get 1 free @ Advance Auto Parts

[elkinm]

Don't mean to crap, but for me Wal-Mart is the best place to buy oil. And there Pennzoil synthetic is about $3-$4 all the time. This deal is still good, but I would first try the oil.

Personally I buy Mobil 1 extended performance. $4-$5 a quart, but I think it is worth it as it is the best oil I have used. I have not tried Amsoil though as I don't want to order it online but get it at a shot were I can get it installed, anybody know where?

Mobil1 runs much smoother. I went around to some places for service with Pennzoil synthetic, castrol syntec, and valvoline. My car ran louder with noticeably more strain. I checked the oil after the regular 3000 miles and it was very brown which is bad. Valvoline is the best of these but is still bad.

Going once again to Mobil 1 EP, I noticed my car runs smoother. And oil color is lighter. I don't try to use it for the advertised 15000 miles, I just like the best oil. Synthetics are not necessarily true synthetics after the law suit between castrol and Mobil (don't remember who sued who), which ruled that the oils do not have to be true synthetics as long as they perform like synthetics.

Either way, Mobil 1 is the best for my car, 1999 G20.

 

[vadp]

Again, please educate yourself.
I've already mentioned where.
The stuff you've just posted is mostly non-sense.
In regards of Amsoil.
The web is full of Amsoil dealers.
You can probably even find the local distributors so you don't have to pay shipping.
Try this one:
http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/links.htm

The question is why Amsoil, or Redline, or RoyalPurple?

 

[PandaBear]

People can claim what they say on their ad, whether GRP 3 is just as good or not.

IMO if synthetic in Europe are all PAO, and only in the US can GRP3 be considered synthetic, then it is not synthetic enough for me.

Are GRP3 just as good? Are M1 overpriced for me? IMO it is hard to say. I personally ran M1 (back in the SL formula) for 12k miles and the used oil analysis came back very good. Sure, I can probably use Chevron Supreme for 6k miles at 69 cents each and get a better deal than M1, it does save me some time.

All SM spec dino oil are GRP II+ or better blended, some even have some GRP III in there, and the spec's limit on phosphorus makes the good synthetic not as good anymore. So IMO you probably won't see as much advantage for a synthetic oil as before.

Penzoil Platnium used to be POE (rather than PAO or GRPIII) but recently the formula changed to GRP III, so it is also not as good as before and can be considered a "fake".

 

[Triggerhappy007]

$15 MIR posted above, here it is again.

 

[herbiehancock]

Originally posted by: PandaBear

Penzoil Platnium used to be POE (rather than PAO or GRPIII) but recently the formula changed to GRP III, so it is also not as good as before and can be considered a "fake".

With the Pennzoil Platinum, you can check the date codes on the boxes/bottles. Those produced prior to 10/20/05, or thereabouts according to one of the links above, contain the original formulation. Oil is a relatively stable concoction, so I don't think a year in storage in sealed bottles is necessarily bad. The case I bought was produced prior to the changeover date, so I did indeed get the "real" synthetic. Hope my beater 1990 Plymouth Acclaim enjoys it.

 

[vadp]

Originally posted by: PandaBear
People can claim what they say on their ad, whether GRP 3 is just as good or not.

IMO if synthetic in Europe are all PAO, and only in the US can GRP3 be considered synthetic, then it is not synthetic enough for me.

Why do you care what they call synthetic in Europe, since their "non-synthetic" oils (group II+ and Group III) are good for 15-30K mi oil change intervals?
Just continue buying Mobil 1 and change it every 3-5K miles.
Mobil Exxon stock holders will thank you.

 

[vadp]

Originally posted by: herbiehancock
The case I bought was produced prior to the changeover date, so I did indeed get the "real" synthetic. Hope my beater 1990 Plymouth Acclaim enjoys it.

That's really funny man.
Your 1990 Plymouth Acclaim should probably enjoy a conventional oil much better.
The seals in an older engine are more likely to develop leaks due to the higher detergency of the synthetic basestocks.
If you feal real adventerous, go buy the race proven $7 qt Redline.
Its ester basestocks are the best in that department.
It's a common misconception that a synthetic oil is always better.
That's simply not true.
The unmodified street driven cars in most cases don't benefit from a synthetic oil.
In the older cars it can be even harmful (oil leaks).

 

[LurkingInNC]

Originally posted by: elkinm
. . . .
Personally I buy Mobil 1 extended performance. $4-$5 a quart, but I think it is worth it as it is the best oil I have used. I have not tried Amsoil though as I don't want to order it online but get it at a shot were I can get it installed, anybody know where?

Mobil1 runs much smoother. I went around to some places for service with Pennzoil synthetic, castrol syntec, and valvoline. My car ran louder with noticeably more strain. I checked the oil after the regular 3000 miles and it was very brown which is bad. Valvoline is the best of these but is still bad.

Going once again to Mobil 1 EP, I noticed my car runs smoother. And oil color is lighter. I don't try to use it for the advertised 15000 miles, I just like the best oil. Synthetics are not necessarily true synthetics after the law suit between castrol and Mobil (don't remember who sued who), which ruled that the oils do not have to be true synthetics as long as they perform like synthetics.

Either way, Mobil 1 is the best for my car, 1999 G20.

Might want to monitor your oils performance next time you buy Mobil 1. It appears that Mobil has changed the base formulation for at least some Mobile 1 types/weights from a Type IV synthetic to a Type III synthetic (what you refered to as 'not a true synthetic'). See link below for more details.

Mobil 1 EP 15W-50 Goes Group III

Edit: as mentioned & linked by Rob above, which we apparently both missed first time around

 

[LurkingInNC]

Originally posted by: Triggerhappy007
$15 MIR posted above, here it is again.

Rebate form states that "Offer may not be combined with any other offer." Wonder if they'd count the buy 1 get 1 free as another offer & deny the rebate? I'm guessing it's too early for anyone to have successfully used the rebate with the B1G1 free promotion?

 

[Triggerhappy007]

I don't know the B1G1 free works. Each 2nd bottle rings up as 0.00 or all bottles ring up as $2.89. I believe it's the latter.

 

[vtohthree]

I just bought 4 qts(would've bought 10 because I need 5qts for OCI..but they only had 5), and guess what? For the advanced auto parts near me, one rang up as NORMAL price, and then the second one rang up as $0.00, hence why I only bought 4 instead of 5.

Having said this, they are going to restock, afterall we have like a month or so for the deal. Also, all this debate between group III and group 4 oils...I've seen oil tests on PP on plenty of MZR 2.3 motors(found in mazda6/mazda3/ford fusion) and they came back very well to say the least, but then again I can say this about nearly every oil analysis I've seen with any group 3 oil...even cheap oils like ford motorcraft, but maybe not with say 7k miles for an OCI.

bottom line, HOT DEAL

 

[herbiehancock]

Originally posted by: Triggerhappy007
I don't know the B1G1 free works. Each 2nd bottle rings up as 0.00 or all bottles ring up as $2.89. I believe it's the latter.

It is the latter, at least on my receipt.....$5.79, $0.00, over and over.

 

[RobsTV]

Originally posted by: vtohthree
For the autozone near me, one rang up as NORMAL price, and then the second one rang up as $0.00, hence why I only bought 4 instead of 5.

Is that a typo, and should have been Advanced Auto Parts?
Or, does Autozone also now have BOGO free?

 

[vtohthree]

Originally posted by: RobsTV

Originally posted by: vtohthree
For the autozone near me, one rang up as NORMAL price, and then the second one rang up as $0.00, hence why I only bought 4 instead of 5.

Is that a typo, and should have been Advanced Auto Parts?
Or, does Autozone also now have BOGO free?

You're right, my mistake. I've been to too many car parts stores. Advanced Auto Parts, not autozone.

 

[herbiehancock]

Originally posted by: vtohthree

Originally posted by: RobsTV

Originally posted by: vtohthree
For the autozone near me, one rang up as NORMAL price, and then the second one rang up as $0.00, hence why I only bought 4 instead of 5.

Is that a typo, and should have been Advanced Auto Parts?
Or, does Autozone also now have BOGO free?

You're right, my mistake. I've been to too many car parts stores. Advanced Auto Parts, not autozone.

Actually, to be absolutely correct, it's Advance Auto Parts......no "D" on the end of Advance......NOT Advanced.

Their Motto: "We're ready in Advance."

 

[LurkingInNC]

Sounds like there's a good chance the $15 rebate will be rejected if one trys to use it in conjunction with the B1-G1 free offer.

Still a good deal, but the extra $15 rebate would have made this really sweet.

 

[vtohthree]

I just came home with a 6qt case of this in the box. Hence I could cut off the UPC code and mail it in with my reciept(it rang up as b1G1 free), I doubt it will work but maybe someone who isn't paying attention at the desk there will let it slide, =P.

 

[FDF12389]

So if I have a fram filter in my car now, and another one on the shelf for the next oil change should I not use them? I have a 99 plymouth neon sport.

Edit: Also, Is there really a big difference between oils? I was told they were all the same just buy the cheapest, same with the filters.

 

[vadp]

Originally posted by: FDF12389
So if I have a fram filter in my car now, and another one on the shelf for the next oil change should I not use them? I have a 99 plymouth neon sport.

Edit: Also, Is there really a big difference between oils? I was told they were all the same just buy the cheapest, same with the filters.

I would use the remaining Fram (just don't keep on for more than 8-10K mi), and then the next time around buy another brand.
The conventional oils indeed are very similar.
If you don't practice extended oil change intervals and don't have a high output/peformance engine, go with the cheapest at the moment conventional brand name oil you can find.
They all confirm to the same SM standart.

 

[LurkingInNC]

Originally posted by: vadp

Originally posted by: FDF12389
. . .
Edit: Also, Is there really a big difference between oils? I was told they were all the same just buy the cheapest, same with the filters.

. . .
The conventional oils indeed are very similar.
If you don't practice extended oil change intervals and don't have a high output/peformance engine, go with the cheapest at the moment conventional brand name oil you can find.
They all confirm to the same SM standart.

I'd stress that you make sure whatever you buy does confirm to the SAE SM standard (or at least one of the previous one or two standards if your vehicle came before SM). I say this because I'm pretty sure you can still sometimes find some older 'name' brand oils at places like the Dollar Store, Dollar General, etc. that are pretty dated as far as SAE rating...