Pelosi: 'I am running for Dem leader'

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hal2kilo

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Yes, I'm sure if the Dems bail on her the Reps will be very nice to the next leader and never ever lie and complain about them and partisanship will flourish anew. :whiste:


She has balls. More balls than the rest of the party put together, that why they need her. She also gets shit done and knows how to fight. The dems will need this more than anything w/ the new House.

Reid was a spineless whimp, and the Rs just tarred him with the same brush. Only his Senate couldn't get half the stuff done Pelosi did, but the Dems got attacked relentlessly anyway.


Dems and Obama have to figure out that the right is going to lie, attack and whine bitterly no matter what you do, so you might as well have the vote and get something done and fight back rather than ducking under the table hoping not to get kicked. Mayeb Pelosi could lend them her balls for a while till they grow a pair of their own

Amen, brother.
 

hal2kilo

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But only 8% of independents have a favorable view towards her. Is that not a glaring issue?

Oh, you mean the windsheild wiper voters of america? They'll be back, when they are pissed off at your side. Haven't you realized that indepentdent means I don't know what the fuck I believe voters of america?
 
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nick1985

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Oh, you mean the windsheild wiper voters of america? They'll be back, when they are pissed off at your side. Haven't you realized that indepentdant means I don't know what the fuck I believe voters of america?

I bet you weren't demonizing them in 2008 when they voted for your pals.
 

RightIsWrong

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Oh, you mean the windsheild wiper voters of america? They'll be back, when they are pissed off at your side. Haven't you realized that indepentdent means I don't know what the fuck I believe voters of america?

As an independent voter, I'd like to let you know, from the bottom of my heart, that you are clueless.

If you think that voting for someone based solely on the party that they are affiliated with is the epitome of an enlightened individual, you should do the country a favor and get everyone you know that follows this ideology on both both sides and start a new movement....the "We're tired of screwing up the country for everyone else cause we think that partisanship is the way to go" party. Don't worry, you and the Tea Party gang will have plenty of company.
 

nobodyknows

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Oh, you mean the windsheild wiper voters of america? They'll be back, when they are pissed off at your side. Haven't you realized that indepentdent means I don't know what the fuck I believe voters of america?

LOL, are you talking about the Independants who put the D's in power in 2008 and then sent more of the D's then R's packing in 2010? Perhaps you would be wise not to take them so lightly if you wish to win any future elections.
 
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EagleKeeper

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Just as Pelosi could 'attempt to redefine herself' when the new speaker, and ran into the same Reight-wing propaganda machine leaders before and after her do.

The 'indendents' are wrong, and suckers for propaganda. The Democrats can choose - keep a great speaker, or put in a worse speaker and get them demonized too.

How does the minority party get to have a member be the Speaker of the House?:\

She is trying to be the Minority Party Leader, not the Speaker. That job is lost.

For one that claims to understand politics, you are demonstrating yourself as an echo chamber and being clueless.



Someone needs to quote me. Craig claims to have me on his ignore list, so by quoting, he can see what an idiot he is becoming.
 

dmcowen674

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig234
Just as Pelosi could 'attempt to redefine herself' when the new speaker, and ran into the same Reight-wing propaganda machine leaders before and after her do.

The 'indendents' are wrong, and suckers for propaganda. The Democrats can choose - keep a great speaker, or put in a worse speaker and get them demonized too.



How does the minority party get to have a member be the Speaker of the House?:\

She is trying to be the Minority Party Leader, not the Speaker. That job is lost.

For one that claims to understand politics, you are demonstrating yourself as an echo chamber and being clueless.



Someone needs to quote me. Craig claims to have me on his ignore list, so by quoting, he can see what an idiot he is becoming.

Quote your jealousy, sure
 

PeshakJang

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How does the minority party get to have a member be the Speaker of the House?:\

She is trying to be the Minority Party Leader, not the Speaker. That job is lost.

For one that claims to understand politics, you are demonstrating yourself as an echo chamber and being clueless.

Someone needs to quote me. Craig claims to have me on his ignore list, so by quoting, he can see what an idiot he is becoming.

He doesn't actually ignore anybody... he just says that as part of his usual tantrums to include:

Call you a liar
Call you an idiot
Say it was already explained "somewhere" and you should search for "it"
Blame the Republicans
Blame the media
Blame the public
Call you an idiot
Call you childish
Throw a tantrum
Threaten to ignore you
Leave the thread in denial

If you can find 1 Craig thread that didn't follow this scheme pretty close, I'll buy you a Coke.
 

IGBT

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keep her up front and on mike. she's the face and voice of the rejected, retrograde liberal agenda. She's a sea anchor of failure for the democrats.
 

Craig234

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig234
Just as Pelosi could 'attempt to redefine herself' when the new speaker, and ran into the same Reight-wing propaganda machine leaders before and after her do.

The 'indendents' are wrong, and suckers for propaganda. The Democrats can choose - keep a great speaker, or put in a worse speaker and get them demonized too.





Quote your jealousy, sure

Dave, his ploy worked. I've often said someone not on ignore can quote someone who is if they want the point raised - not once a year does anyone think their post is worth it.

In swapping between 'speaker' which Pelosi is, and 'leader' or 'minority leader' which is the upcoming position for Democrats, I mistakenly used 'speaker'.

That's an issue of not being careful enough, not anything more as the jerk suggests obnoxiously, and reinforces he belongs on ignore for good reason.

Nothing to add to the discussion, just trying to make an issue and attack over something trivial, like a typo or equivalent.
 

nageov3t

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Craig, only 8% of independents approve of Pelosi. Address this issue please.
because Democrats are incapable of defining themselves or controlling the message, the new minority leader would invariably have an equally low approval rating anyways because of those damned rascally Republicans who hate America.
 

IBMer

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Well Gallup had a different lean

http://www.gallup.com/poll/143885/pelosi-favorable-rating-speaker-drops-new-low.aspx

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As much as I don't want to agree with Craig with anything, a large part of approval ratings end up being propaganda on any side. When people are asked what is wrong with Pelosi its often non-descriptive, like "Because she is terrible and bad for the country"...
 

nick1985

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And those are over 2 weeks old. Given her condescending remarks after the election, I would assume the numbers are even lower for her.
 

IBMer

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Regardless the problem is what most of the people in this thread have failed to do is ever state why she is bad, beyond the completely non-descriptive.

It seems to be as if Politics are becoming a new religion. Instead of people actually having their own thoughts, its just filtered to them from someone else. She is bad because the pastor said she is bad, just like masturbation is a sin because some pastor said it is.
 

nageov3t

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Regardless the problem is what most of the people in this thread have failed to do is ever state why she is bad, beyond the completely non-descriptive.
it's been said many times.

she's bad because nationally, many people do not like her and identify her as one of the primary faces of the Democratic Party. she's proven herself incapable of redefining herself. despite her effectiveness as Speaker, she's going to be a drag on Democratic races across the country as long as she remains the face of the party.

personally, I like Nancy Pelosi. she's always come across as a nice, personable person in the interviews I've seen of her. but as I mentioned previously, if a majority of Americans thought puppies caused cancer, I wouldn't run on a platform of Puppies for Everyone no matter how misinformed the public was.
 

IBMer

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she's bad because nationally, many people do not like her and identify her as one of the primary faces of the Democratic Party. she's proven herself incapable of redefining herself. despite her effectiveness as Speaker, she's going to be a drag on Democratic races across the country as long as she remains the face of the party.

This quote only proved my point.
 

Jmman

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Go Nancy, GO! She is the best thing that ever happened to the republicans......
 
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IBMer

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how?

my head is asploding at your willingness to completely dismiss the political implications of a political post.

I wasn't commenting on her effect on the democratic party, but on the reason "many people do not like her".

Of course the democrats should find a new speaker, because people will never stop talking about how bad she is. The problem is nobody has ever said why. It was just accepted as fact. Most people who do not like her have no reason why they don't like her.
 

Rainsford

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Craig, only 8% of independents approve of Pelosi. Address this issue please.

Well maybe this is an obvious question, but should that really be the qualifying factor in the Democrats choosing a minority leader? The vast majority of people who hate Nancy Pelosi don't get to VOTE for or against Nancy Pelosi, so her approval rating by itself is totally meaningless. The real question that I haven't seen any data on is whether or not anyone will change their level of support for the Democrats in general and the candidates they can vote on in particular based on their support for the Democratic leader?

The other question is how many people dislike Nancy Pelosi in particular and how many people dislike "Democratic Speaking of the House/Minority Leader" vocationally? Would support for someone ELSE in her position be a lot higher? Because honestly, the 3 most hated Democrats right now seem to be Obama, Reid and Pelosi. How convenient that those are probably the only 3 Democrats most people have heard of...they're a lot easier to "hate" that some Congressman who's name you don't know.