"Peering into the Abyss"

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bamacre

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/schiff/schiff10.html

For a few fleeting, horrifying moments this past week the fault lines that underlie the global economic crisis erupted into plain view. With deft and quick effort leaders in Washington, Europe and Asia papered over the fissures and fears largely subsided. But the shock of plain truths which resulted in violent currency movements are the latest reminder that the 21st century economic order will bear little resemblance to the world we now know.

The tremors began in Beijing, where an essay from the governor of the People?s Bank of China seemed to favor the creation of an IMF currency to replace the U.S. dollar as the world?s reserve. In Europe, the rotating president of the European Union, outgoing Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek, characterized America?s plan to combat the widening global recession as the ?road to hell.? At same time, British Member of the European Parliament Daniel Hannan made headlines the world over with his stinging rebuke of the inflationary and debt-focused policies of the current UK government.

As a result of these clearly voiced frustrations, the U.S. dollar suffered a drubbing. However, Treasury secretary Geithner and his ministerial counterparts in Berlin, Paris and London did their best to convince everyone that the world is pulling together as one to combat the economic crisis. The charm offensive was effective in restoring calm.

Given the size and scope of the remedies that the Obama Administration is cajoling the world to adopt, it is likely that the unease will grow until many countries emerge in open revolt to America?s plans.

President Obama and the majority of our leadership on both sides of the aisle are confident that the right mix of monetary and fiscal policy can restart the spending party that defined America for a generation. And as the bleary-eyed revelers wisely reach for a cup of black coffee or stumble into a rehab center, Obama is pouring grain alcohol into the punch bowl hoping to lure the walking zombies back onto the dance floor. Europe and Asia fully understand that Obama will ask them to lend the booze.

Washington is telling us that our problems result from a lack of consumer spending. Therefore, the solution is for government spending to pick up the slack. However, if Americans are too broke to spend, then how can our government spend for us? The only money they have is taken from us through taxation. To postpone immediate tax hikes (adding interest for good measure), Washington plans to borrow more from abroad. However, if our foreign creditors refuse to pony up, much of the money will simply be printed instead.

Printing money is merely taxation in another form. Rather than robbing citizens of their money, government robs their money of its purchasing power. Many people assume that if government provides the funds we can spend our way back to prosperity. However, it?s not money we lack but production. If the government simply prints money and doles it out, we will not be able to buy more stuff; we will simply pay higher prices. The only way to buy more is to produce more. It is production that creates purchasing power, not the printing press!

Our current predicament resulted in part from our efforts to maintain consumer spending at unsustainable levels, primarily by the reckless extension of consumer credit. Pushing up consumer credit to levels not supported by market realities required government subsidies and guarantees. In addition, Wall Street pitched in with securitization and credit default swaps, which created a false sense of confidence among our creditors that high-risk consumer loans could actually be repaid. However, now that all those gimmicks have blown up, the entire farce has been exposed. There is simply no way to sustain an economy based on consumer credit.

The Administration argues that more debt will restore growth which will then allow the repayment of borrowed money. First, our government has never, and will never, repay anything. Second, the assumption that additional borrowing and spending will restore growth is flawed. In fact, more consumer debt and government spending will undermine our economy and restrain growth.

To solve our problems we must first come to terms with their source. That is what the voices from abroad are telling us. We borrowed and spent ourselves to the brink of bankruptcy, and now we must save and produce ourselves back to prosperity.

Of course, this simple solution is rejected by Keynesian economists who insist that we must keep spending. The ?paradox of thrift,? as they call it, holds that if we stop spending the recession will worsen. While this is true, it is hardly a paradox. As they say in the fitness game, ?no pain, no gain.? No one said this was going to be easy, but the only way to rebuild a viable economy is to let the phony one collapse. If we follow the Keynesians, the fault lines will continue to widen until our wealth, our lifestyle, our very ability to prosper is swallowed up. The calls from abroad will only get louder until we face this ugly truth.

Schiff makes some excellent points here. I think the big questions are, will foreigners continue lending us money, and if so, for how long? From what I can see, they are already becoming reluctant. Then what? The printing press? Let's all hope not.

And I can already foresee a few people who will come in and bash the author rather than his words. While no one is perfect when it comes to economic predictions, Schiff is quite popular due to his getting it right, not that he was the only one who saw this mess coming.

Also, worthy of adding...
"Why the Meltdown Should Have Surprised No One"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgMclXX5msc
 

Moonbeam

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The way to heaven is through ego death. Jesus told us this. But nobody listens. Phony ego, phony economy, same thing. Nobody is going to let go to let it die. A bird in the hand is worth a whole ton of fantasy. Nobody trusts or believes and suspect people selling books. Doom sells because people hate themselves.
 

babylon5

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"Printing money is merely taxation in another form. Rather than robbing citizens of their money, government robs their money of its purchasing power. Many people assume that if government provides the funds we can spend our way back to prosperity. However, it?s not money we lack but production. If the government simply prints money and doles it out, we will not be able to buy more stuff; we will simply pay higher prices. The only way to buy more is to produce more. It is production that creates purchasing power, not the printing press! "

I had a discussion with a friend about how as we increase our debt, and our spending will increase in coming years, how can we keep up? He said we will just print more money. But I don't get how we can keep printing money without major consequences. He said because other countries like China would make sure the value of USD won't depreciated because they want to keep pegging their money onto USD (also we have bond holders from plenty other countries), so all of them don't want their investment (i.e. USA) to fail.

Still, I just don't see how anyone, or any country can keep printing money out of thin air without expecting something negative would occur at some point.


 

nullzero

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What the people running this country don't get is you can't fool the laws of mathematics. We are going to be in the shit hole for a while with the economy.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The way to heaven is through ego death. Jesus told us this. But nobody listens. Phony ego, phony economy, same thing. Nobody is going to let go to let it die. A bird in the hand is worth a whole ton of fantasy. Nobody trusts or believes and suspect people selling books. Doom sells because people hate themselves.

I think you're confusing "doom and gloom" with caveat and sound advice. God forbid he speak up?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The way to heaven is through ego death. Jesus told us this. But nobody listens. Phony ego, phony economy, same thing. Nobody is going to let go to let it die. A bird in the hand is worth a whole ton of fantasy. Nobody trusts or believes and suspect people selling books. Doom sells because people hate themselves.

I think you're confusing "doom and gloom" with caveat and sound advice. God forbid he speak up?

I will be curious to see what others think.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The way to heaven is through ego death. Jesus told us this. But nobody listens. Phony ego, phony economy, same thing. Nobody is going to let go to let it die. A bird in the hand is worth a whole ton of fantasy. Nobody trusts or believes and suspect people selling books. Doom sells because people hate themselves.

I think you're confusing "doom and gloom" with caveat and sound advice. God forbid he speak up?

I will be curious to see what others think.

You can listen to those who say we need to borrow and spend more money or you can listen to those who say we need to start paying off what we owe and save. What has Moonbeam done lately? Has Moonbeam sought another credit card, or has Moonbeam cut back? The answer lies within you.
 
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