Peer-to-Peer DSL????? DSL ranges??????? Multiple DSL connections over one line?????

[GD695372]

Is it possible to connect from one DSL modem to another(eg from house to house)? If so, do these locations have to be on the same switching station? Is it possible to have multiple DSL connections over a single line? What's the range of DSL, and is this calculated from one user's modem to the switching station, or is it culmulative(eg all segments of line included int he range as in the case of connecting peer-to-peer)?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks!

EDIT: Is there a specific protocol that DSL uses, or can it use VPN for example?

 

[TheOverlord]

ok heres some basic info to start you out:

1) yes you can connect 2 dsl users together to make a WAN using a VPN, only requirement is a router on both sides that can do the PPTP, IPSec, etc.

2) distance only matters for DSL from your house to the CO. if you create a VPN then you will not be going directly from your house to whoever else's house, instead you will go from your house to the CO's router then to your friends house...the distance only figures into if you can get dsl and at what speeds, it wont matter for VPNs

3) PPPoE is popular for ADSL which is most common, I'm personally not too familiar with other means of connecting dsl to the CO, as far as internet protocols it can use whatever you install on your computer: TCP/IP, IPX/SPX, AppleTalk (why use macs i dont know) so yes you could set it up to do a VPN, again you just need a router on both sides to set it up

If you do set up a VPN with 2 dsl routers using a dynamic IP you will have to reconfigure the VPN each time you have to renew your IP and get a different one.

 

[GD695372]

Could you give me any research materials on peer-to-peer DSL phone networks at all?

Here's why I'm asking:

Several of my friends have 56k connections and some of them have free isp's(which in most cases are obviously slow and unstable). I have a road runner connection that's incredibly stable(even for road runner), and would like to somehow provide them with broadband access over DSL. DSL is available in the area soo I'm assuming that the local communications infrastructure should be there. One problem of note is that one of my friends lives quite a ways away from the CO, and I don't think ADSL has that kind of range(about 5 to 10 miles or so, maybe more). The other main problems I see are somehow connecting them to road runner(probably not that much of a problem), and figuring out what exactly I'll need for DSL hardware(eg routers). Is it possible for multiple DSL modems on different phone lines to connect to my phone line simultaneously(allowing more than one person to use the setup and thereby reducing personal cost and increasing the number of friends I have with broadband)? Would it be possible to find a fairly inexpensive rotuer that would connect directly to my hub(and the cable router on the hub)? I'd like to have as little software-driven stuff as possible(eg not using a 486 as a router or an internet-sharing box via something like wingate).

Sorry about the messy presentation, and thanks for the help.

 

[Maverick]

Umm I think you need to be a telco to provide DSL service for your friends. They have special Analog to Digital switching stations that could cost > $100,000. There's a reason that the Telcos provide DSL wiring...they own the lines and the DSL routers. What you're talking about isn't really feasible unless you open up your own telco.

 

[GD695372]

Any ideas as to an alternative method in that case?

 

[GregGreen]

If they are going to get xDSL lines to you, why don't they just get xDSL service from a local ISP and not leech your bandwith?

 

[GD695372]

They don't have the money to pay for it, and I have no problem with giving them some bandwidth.