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vinayb

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hi, was thinking to buy pcpower&coolings 510 SLI for my sli setup...just wanted to know if its worth the extra dough??
My rig..
AMD 64 3800/4000
ASUS A8N SLI DELUXE
Asus N6800GTx2
Corsair 3200XL 512x2
1 cdrom, 1 dvd/cdrw combo
2 hdds (30+80) gb
creative audigy 2 zs platinum pro
2 floppy drives(one media card adaptor)
 
That PS has great specs - no question.

The only problem I've ever noticed with PC Power & Cooling PSUs is they tend to be nosier than I'd like them to be. If this is unimportant to you, then you should go for it.
 
Originally posted by: TourGuide
That PS has great specs - no question.

The only problem I've ever noticed with PC Power & Cooling PSUs is they tend to be nosier than I'd like them to be. If this is unimportant to you, then you should go for it.
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You can get them modified by the manufacturer with a silencer fan in there which is very quiet. If you are willing to pay the price premium it is the best PSU out there. We are talking industrial grade here.

If you take a step down on the line in between industrial and consumer grade, the OCZ's are EXCELLENT PSU's. They can be had for cheaper than the PCP&C but the build quality and some other features are not as good.

-Kevin
 
PCPOWERANDCOOLING kick a$$e$. Amazing specs and reliability for great prices too(taking into account their quality). My next psu will surely be one of those,no doubt about that.
 
I got a PCP&C SLI for my box and love it. The rails are rock steady and the PSU isn't as noisey as everyone makes it out to be. I would highly recommend it, partly because it kicks much a$$ now, but because it is something you can keep for a few years, even through your next upgrades.
 
Originally posted by: jim1976
PCPOWERANDCOOLING kick a$$e$. Amazing specs and reliability for great prices too(taking into account their quality). My next psu will surely be one of those,no doubt about that.
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These are the most expensive PSU's on the market. What do you mean "great price" 😕

They are as noisy as they are made out to be, however as i said before the manufacturer will install any custom mods you want.

-Kevin
 
anyone know how the enermax equivalent rates against the pcp&c sli?
Model EG701AX-VE 600w Noisetaker <--- heard voodoopc uses these in their rage sli rigs.
 
Originally posted by: Kid Vicious
anyone know how the enermax equivalent rates against the pcp&c sli?
Model EG701AX-VE 600w Noisetaker <--- heard voodoopc uses these in their rage sli rigs.
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Incomparable. Enermax is a consumer level PSU. I would put them right up there with OCZ and Fortron but they are not of the caliber the Zippy and PCP&C are.

-Kevin
 
im curious to kow how they actually perform in a 6800 ultra sli system... anyone have both an ultra sli AND a PCP&S 510 SLI ??
 
I use a PCP&C 470 watt Silencer with a single GFX 6800 Ultra OC with no problems, the ps is just as quiet as the 380w Antec that comes in the Sonata case. I had the 470 custom tailed for $20 at the factory for the correct number of 12v connectors, total price, delivered was $124. Not a bad price for the quality. 470w continous power, 520 peak. Call the factory and ask, a 470w Silencer might work perfectly



AMD 3.2
ASUS A8V Deluxe
1 gig ram
cd burner
dvd player
3 hdd
floppy
TB Santa Cruz
USR fax/modem
BFG 6800 Ultra OC
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: jim1976
PCPOWERANDCOOLING kick a$$e$. Amazing specs and reliability for great prices too(taking into account their quality). My next psu will surely be one of those,no doubt about that.
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These are the most expensive PSU's on the market. What do you mean "great price" 😕

They are as noisy as they are made out to be, however as i said before the manufacturer will install any custom mods you want.

-Kevin
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Yes you're right ,"great" isn't the most appropriate word.Well let me rephrase. Price is 100% justified.What I mean is taking into account their quality,price is justified and looks ok to me. IMHO they are by far the best PSUs.
 
Honestly I think it's vastly overpriced with little gain in quality. $220 for a power supply? I mean come on. That just seems unheard of by me, but maybe not to those extremely serious about their PCs. I'm by no means an electrical engineer but I believe a UPS would offer better protection for $50 more, instead of the $100 premium over the NeoPower. Well, that is, for incoming power anyway. MaximumPC did a round-up a while back and actually gave Antec's NeoPower the edge (10/kickass award) over the PCP&C (9/kickass award), because it came out with near identical power testing results and was modular. If money is of no concern whatsoever then I can't say it's a bad choice, but there is cheaper out there for very, very near the same performance. If I recall correctly the PCP&C did have a slight advantage over the NeoPower (I'm talking about 2-3 hundredths of a volt) in the rails. Is that worth $100? Maybe if you are absolutely INSANE about overclocking, but for the casual overclocker I really don't think so. Yes, it does have a 5 year warranty vs. Antec's 3 year, but I'll probably need a new power supply by then anyway for future power-hungry video cards, and perhaps a few Raptor drives. BTX might be here in 3 years too, but I don't know if that affects the form factor of the power supply or not. On the other hand, if you can spend $1000 on a huge SLI machine, your wallet can probably justify this as well. Just my two cents because I've never had any power supply, whether cheap or expensive, cause any problems for me for 10 years. Antec is very high quality as well, and in my opinion is just as good as the PCP&C. If you're paranoid about your PC dying the next morning, then get it. It's still possible with the PCP&C power supply by the way. Nothing's crash-proof. Or, maybe if you cool your rigs with liquid nitrogen and are an extreme overclocker that needs stable-as-hell rails/whatever, that's fine too. However, in my mind it doesn't justify its price premium for even average overclockers. I better whip out my flame-retardant suit now 😀
 
Originally posted by: xtknight
MaximumPC did a round-up a while back and actually gave Antec's NeoPower the edge (10/kickass award) over the PCP&C (9/kickass award), because it came out with near identical power testing results and was modular.
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PCP&C responded to the shootout in the Feb. 05 issue of Maximum PC. Their responce in a nutshell, comparing the 510 to the NeoPower 480 was:
The 510 has 30% more peak power
10% wider input
100% longer hold time
3X better voltage regulation
50% less output ripple
2 yr longer warranty
510w Continuous power at 50 degrees C
Usually available on their website for $197 (their words, not mine)

 
Originally posted by: Woody419
Originally posted by: xtknight
MaximumPC did a round-up a while back and actually gave Antec's NeoPower the edge (10/kickass award) over the PCP&C (9/kickass award), because it came out with near identical power testing results and was modular.
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PCP&C responded to the shootout in the Feb. 05 issue of Maximum PC. Their responce in a nutshell, comparing the 510 to the NeoPower 480 was:
The 510 has 30% more peak power
10% wider input
100% longer hold time
3X better voltage regulation
50% less output ripple
2 yr longer warranty
510w Continuous power at 50 degrees C
Usually available on their website for $197 (their words, not mine)
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Yeah I saw that, but that doesn't really mean anything. Specifications are specifications... kind of like response time on LCDs..it doesn't mean much practically until you actually test it. They use a different naming system, so 30% more peak power is obvious. Even if it did have much cleaner output I wouldn't really care if my devices can handle slight ripple/whatever anyway. In my mind the only practically useful thing is offers over competitors like the NeoPower is a 2 year longer warranty. I don't know what half of the specs mean but I haven't heard much about them except for the fact that more accurate rails could help high overclockers. The 3x voltage regulation is a flat out lie according to MaxPC's test. I think it was maybe 2x better at max, I don't have the results right in front of me though. MaxPC is in no way biased against the PCP&C because they've used it for years in their dream machines, and I trust their tests. My guess is the majority of it is just marketing jumble 🙂. It could help on the extreme end of things, but other than that no for 95% or more of users. Yes, it IS better than the NeoPower. Does it justify the price? Not in my mind. By the way, the Turbo-Cool 510 Deluxe is $197, yes. The OP was talking about the SLI version though which is $239 according to their website. Honestly, I don't know what the difference is. SLI on either is probably fine, so the price difference is between $70-115 over the NeoPower. I have read problems with SLI and dual-rail power supplies like the NeoPower. I'm not positive, but I think the Turbo-Cool 510 SLI is dual-rail as well, so watch out either way you go.

Turbo-Cool 510 SLI (Dual Express Video) NEW! $239.00

If you really want a PCP&C power supply then the Silencer 470W is fine for SLI like Woody said. I believe they are just as high-quality.
 
The Neopower is incomparable to the PCP&C. Hell the Neopower cant (and isn't meant to) compete with the OCZ's and the Fortrons. MaxPC is full of sh!t on that review. Take a look inside a PCP&C then take a look inside a Neopower.... yeah thats what i thought.

-Kevin
 
If you are running a cascade trying to get 4GHz from your FX-55, a PCP&C is neccesary, but if you are just doing average OCing, the PSU will be overkill. A OCZ PowerStream 520 for $140 will be a much better deal, the quality difference if marginal at best, and the rails are stable enough for everyone who isn't trying to be top 10 of the Orb.
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Originally posted by: n yusef
If you are running a cascade trying to get 4GHz from your FX-55, a PCP&C is neccesary, but if you are just doing average OCing, the PSU will be overkill. A OCZ PowerStream 520 for $140 will be a much better deal, the quality difference if marginal at best, and the rails are stable enough for everyone who isn't trying to be top 10 of the Orb.
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I'm glad somebody finally agrees with me besides MaxPC. Well stated. Summary: The PCP&C PSU IS better than most. But it doesn't justify its price for the vast majority. And I don't know what the heck they put in the 510 SLI that made it $40 more expensive than the already-overpriced "ATX" 😕. Two video connectors?
 
For how much money I have spent on other stuff on my rigs, for me the 510 is worth it. It is the only part on my rig I never have to worry about swapping out.
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: TourGuide
That PS has great specs - no question.

The only problem I've ever noticed with PC Power & Cooling PSUs is they tend to be nosier than I'd like them to be. If this is unimportant to you, then you should go for it.
Click to expand...

You can get them modified by the manufacturer with a silencer fan in there which is very quiet. If you are willing to pay the price premium it is the best PSU out there. We are talking industrial grade here.

If you take a step down on the line in between industrial and consumer grade, the OCZ's are EXCELLENT PSU's. They can be had for cheaper than the PCP&C but the build quality and some other features are not as good.

-Kevin
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Yep they are loud and they would not change the fan in my 425 deluxe I bought from them. I was told they will not replace the fan period it is not that loud so they say but it is and it does kick but as it powers my system fine with out a hickup ever.
 
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