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AStar617

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Intended as my secondary 3D card to drive monitors 2 and 3 (or possibly 3 and 4).

Also, are there any known issues with using an ATI and Nvidia card in the same box?

Already did search but there's no very recent info regarding this subject, or recent cross-chipset PCI roundups featuring 9100, 9200, 9250, fx5200, fx5700le.

Thx in advance...
 
erm it would probably be ideal not to run a nvidia card and a ati card,.... though ive heard of many people say it all plays nice, but id jus use the same make. if u have nvidia use a PCI 5200, if your only driving a second monitor with it dont need it to be good at 3d anyway
 
My main card is a X700 PCIe which is why I was leaning towards ATI.

Which is better, a 128bit/64mb 9100 or a 64-bit/256mb 9250SE? I'm thinkin the 9100.
 
I would guess the 9100, but with the crippling pci bottleneck, extra video ram might be as important as the 64-bit bus...

Neither is going to be a champ; but for driving \a second monitor, both should be more than adequate.

Your X700 shouldn't be hard to sell though, you might consider a card with dual monitor support instead of spending any money on completely obsolete technology.
 
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
I would guess the 9100, but with the crippling pci bottleneck, extra video ram might be as important as the 64-bit bus...

Neither is going to be a champ; but for driving \a second monitor, both should be more than adequate.

Your X700 shouldn't be hard to sell though, you might consider a card with dual monitor support instead of spending any money on completely obsolete technology.
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Understood, but I am looking for a triple-head display setup, which will require an additional PCI card any way you cut it. Obsolete, but completely necessary given the intended application.

Any links to some more recent roundups would be appreciated... thx for the help so far...

 
If you're only driving a 2D-only display, anything would work. Heck, even a Radeon 7000 would fit the bill.
 
This is intended for 3D gaming... I figured it was clear from my primary video card choice 🙂 If it were a 2D setup I'd just get a Matrox G450 x2/x4 MMS...
 
Originally posted by: AStar617


Any links to some more recent roundups would be appreciated... thx for the help so far...
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I don't think there have been any more recent PCI roundups, other than the one at Sudhian that's almost 1.5 yrs old now. Being that the slow conversion from AGP to PCI-E has already started, I would find it amazing if someone actually posted another PCI video card review. TBH, there really haven't been any advancements in PCI 3D performance for well over a year now.

To answer your original question, even if the 9100 has only 64mb of memory, it will be much faster than any 64-bit 9200 derivative, no matter how much memory it has.
 
Originally posted by: AStar617
This is intended for 3D gaming... I figured it was clear from my primary video card choice 🙂 If it were a 2D setup I'd just get a Matrox G450 x2/x4 MMS...
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But the third monitor will just be for 2D stuff, so get whatever you can. The only way to get surround gaming is with a Matrox Parhelia and those buggers are slow and expensive.
 
Similar desire for a second monitor, I have an AIW 9600. I installed a PCI Radeon 7000, which worked, but disabled my TV tuner/capture ability. I tried every driver combination, but couldn't fix the problem.

Then I tried an NVidia MX 4000 plus (Mad Dog 128mb) from CompUSA $39. Works just fine with no noticeable affect on the main AGP card. This is after everyone I talked to said it wouldn't work. YMMV...but mixing ATI and NVidia has fixed my setup without any problems.
 
Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: AStar617
This is intended for 3D gaming... I figured it was clear from my primary video card choice 🙂 If it were a 2D setup I'd just get a Matrox G450 x2/x4 MMS...
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But the third monitor will just be for 2D stuff, so get whatever you can. The only way to get surround gaming is with a Matrox Parhelia and those buggers are slow and expensive.
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Is this really the case? I was under the assumption that you could use the 3D features on all cards, not just the primary card... didn't do a boatload of research on this though...

OK so it looks like the 9250 is a rehash of the 9200, which itself is the 9100 (8500) with half the pipes... since it appears that there's no 9100s still available in retail channels, looks like a 128mb 128bit 9250 is the next best thing...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-444&depa=1

Is it worth getting a FX5200/FX5700LE for DX9 capability? If the above statement of the secondary card not being able to do 3D is true, I guess this is all a moot point anyway... 🙂
 
Originally posted by: AStar617
Originally posted by: MDE
Originally posted by: AStar617
This is intended for 3D gaming... I figured it was clear from my primary video card choice 🙂 If it were a 2D setup I'd just get a Matrox G450 x2/x4 MMS...
Click to expand...

But the third monitor will just be for 2D stuff, so get whatever you can. The only way to get surround gaming is with a Matrox Parhelia and those buggers are slow and expensive.
Click to expand...

Is this really the case? I was under the assumption that you could use the 3D features on all cards, not just the primary card... didn't do a boatload of research on this though...

OK so it looks like the 9250 is a rehash of the 9200, which itself is the 9100 (8500) with half the pipes... since it appears that there's no 9100s still available in retail channels, looks like a 128mb 128bit 9250 is the next best thing...

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-444&depa=1

Is it worth getting a FX5200/FX5700LE for DX9 capability? If the above statement of the secondary card not being able to do 3D is true, I guess this is all a moot point anyway... 🙂
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For a third card look no further than a Radeon 7000. As far as I know it is not possible to triple-head game without a Matrox Para-thingee so it's not really worth spending more than $15-30 on a second card.

I am actually looking at picking up an old GeForce MX of some flavor to run a third monitor on my desktop (my 6800GT is hooked to the 21" CRT and 20.1" LCD). I have no tried it yet due to reports of difficulty with combing graphics cards from the same maker (for some reason my friends have had better luck with different brands together rather than the same one).

-spike

BTW, not sure if you noticed but that card you linked is an AGP, not PCI. If you have one of those intel boards with both PCIe and AGP then you are good to go, otherwise you will have to stick to looking at PCI cards.
 
That card you linked to is any agp card not pci. I also just ordered a 5700le pci card for a friend's computer. It will be used on the primary display to play sims 2. It only cost about $20 more than any 5200 or 9250 I could find. I looked for a 9100, but as you said you can not find them in retail anymore.
 
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