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PCI-express IDE Hard Drive Controller.

Googer

Googer

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I have too many IDE devices that I am not ready to give up on. Now that IDE Controllers are vanishing from motherboards and chipsets all too quickly, what manufacturer or chip maker is making a PCI-e x1 PATA drive controller?
 
i dont think theres a market for that.. i never seen one... almost everyone moved to sata on pcie.... but if anyone finds one.. let us know..
 
You will have to get a PATA-SATA bridge for each drive, or plug a PATA controller into a PCI/PCI-X slot. I've never heard of one for PCI-E.

 
Originally posted by: Tarrant64
I don't know if there are any, but do you not have anymore regular PCI slots?
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Yes, but PCI slots are becoming a rariity and two hard drives will flood my PCI bus leaving no bandwith for other devices.
 
Originally posted by: Atheus
You will have to get a PATA-SATA bridge for each drive, or plug a PATA controller into a PCI/PCI-X slot. I've never heard of one for PCI-E.
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Best ideas. You get to have neater cables too.

Also, don't forget the trusy USB 2.0 IDE enclosure.

Although, if you are holding onto old HDD's you should probably just buy the cheapest SATA drive (cost/gig) you can afford. All the adapters will be for obsolete parts.
 
Originally posted by: Zach
Originally posted by: Atheus
You will have to get a PATA-SATA bridge for each drive, or plug a PATA controller into a PCI/PCI-X slot. I've never heard of one for PCI-E.
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Best ideas. You get to have neater cables too.

Also, don't forget the trusy USB 2.0 IDE enclosure.

Although, if you are holding onto old HDD's you should probably just buy the cheapest SATA drive (cost/gig) you can afford. All the adapters will be for obsolete parts.
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One of my two of my hard drives is only 6 months old and the second one is 18 months old. Buying 4 SATA/PATA adapters would cost me nearly $100+ versus $30-40 for a native controller card that would not hord or block my SATA ports.
 
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Tarrant64
I don't know if there are any, but do you not have anymore regular PCI slots?
Click to expand...

Yes, but PCI slots are becoming a rariity and two hard drives will flood my PCI bus leaving no bandwith for other devices.
Click to expand...

Both hard drives, continuously streaming sequential data from the fast parts of the platters, simultaneously, might hit the maximum realistic throughput of PCI, but you shouldn't actually see THAT much of a bandwidth limitation. How many other devices do you have on the PCI slot? If you're using integrated audio and networking, those don't use PCI unless you have an pretty old board.

PCI slots are still far from "rare" (even microATX boards still have a couple) and won't be for a while, at least a while after your IDE drives aren't really of any value.

If you get a rare PCIe IDE controller, you'll just end up with a controller that isn't of any value later anyway, since you aren't likely to be getting any more IDE drives.

Development began to shift to SATA controllers before PCIe was out, which means there's very little reason anybody would be developing any sort of IDE controller anymore. It becomes one of those things that people only make because one small niche like businesses with legacy applications require the older interface on a newer system, which means it's expensive because they only sell a few.
 
USB 2.0 is decently fast for bulk storage, so you could get an external case for $25-35.

Of course if you go PCI-old you can get a Promise controller card with 2 ports for $15-25 shipped in the FS/FT forum.
 
Originally posted by: Lord Evermore
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Tarrant64
I don't know if there are any, but do you not have anymore regular PCI slots?
Click to expand...

Yes, but PCI slots are becoming a rariity and two hard drives will flood my PCI bus leaving no bandwith for other devices.
Click to expand...

Both hard drives, continuously streaming sequential data from the fast parts of the platters, simultaneously, might hit the maximum realistic throughput of PCI, but you shouldn't actually see THAT much of a bandwidth limitation. How many other devices do you have on the PCI slot? If you're using integrated audio and networking, those don't use PCI unless you have an pretty old board.

PCI slots are still far from "rare" (even microATX boards still have a couple) and won't be for a while, at least a while after your IDE drives aren't really of any value.

If you get a rare PCIe IDE controller, you'll just end up with a controller that isn't of any value later anyway, since you aren't likely to be getting any more IDE drives.

Development began to shift to SATA controllers before PCIe was out, which means there's very little reason anybody would be developing any sort of IDE controller anymore. It becomes one of those things that people only make because one small niche like businesses with legacy applications require the older interface on a newer system, which means it's expensive because they only sell a few.
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More importantly I am most interested in keeping my good 'ol Plextor Premeium; I know I could use a DVD drive but when DVD drives read CD's they produce 10x more Jitter which is bad for data integrity and audio quality, they just dont make CD drives like the Plextor Premieum anymore.
 
Many add-in IDE controllers don't even like optical drives. But of course that isn't nearly going to cause any bandwidth problems on the PCI bus, and the drive may not be of any value by the time you can't get a PCI slot, and you then could go external if you had to.

I have not exactly been looking at performance of DVD drives with reading CDs, seems kind of odd that they'd produce them if they were that bad at reading the data, and unlikely that so very many people would give up CD drives and only have DVD drives if it was that significant (unless of course they're all dirty pirates who never need to read CDs).
 
Exact Audio Copy loves my Nec 3550A DVD burner, it's at least as good at accurate reading as the old Asus 40x CD-ROM (a classic DAE drive for EAC).

Do you mean they're less accurate for real-time playback using the digital out pins? Can you rip to lossless (FLAC, etc.) and play from the HD instead?
 
I found a the Jmicron JMB363 chip runs PATA on PCI-express but I cannot find any host addon controllers that use it. I guess that I will have to wait and it will only be a matter of time before a card featuring the JMB363 will become avalable.
 
I'd recommend a standard PCI controller. Syba makes a Silicon Image based one that sells for under $20. shipped (sometimes under $15.) all over the web. It also has RAID functions but you don't need to use them. Supports anything from the old and slow LS-120 drives, ATAPI optical drives, up to the fastest IDE HDDs. As another said, you can probably find some in the FS/t section here.

.bh.
 
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