PCI-E boards

Fenixgoon

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one reviewer on newegg claimed that the MSI K8N Neo3 had some sort of "hybrid" slot that supported both pci express and AGP cards. is this true? it would be very nice for me since i have a 9800NP right now and would like to go pci-e, but don't want to buy a new video card
 

Peter

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It isn't _actual_ AGP. It's a bridged PCI bus in the shape of an AGP slot. Compatibility is limited to cards that still do 3.3V "0x" AGP mode (which is 66 MHz PCI actually). 4x/8x-only cards don't even work.
 
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Originally posted by: Peter
It isn't _actual_ AGP. It's a bridged PCI bus in the shape of an AGP slot. Compatibility is limited to cards that still do 3.3V "0x" AGP mode (which is 66 MHz PCI actually). 4x/8x-only cards don't even work.


Actually the "AGR" slot is an AGP slot tagged onto a PCI-E x2 connection. :)
 

Fenixgoon

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sounds like a good deal then.. i just have to find out if the 9800 NP is supported or not. its not on MSI's official list of supported cards for the AGR slot, but i made a post in the MSI forums asking whether or not my 9800 would work. then again, would i be better off getting an AGP motherboard instead?
 

Peter

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Originally posted by: Kensai
Originally posted by: Peter
It isn't _actual_ AGP. It's a bridged PCI bus in the shape of an AGP slot. Compatibility is limited to cards that still do 3.3V "0x" AGP mode (which is 66 MHz PCI actually). 4x/8x-only cards don't even work.


Actually the "AGR" slot is an AGP slot tagged onto a PCI-E x2 connection. :)

So? It still isn't proper AGP, it's PCI. It might be 66 MHz, but it's still 3.3V signalling, not compatible with ANY halfway recent card that would be worth keeping in a new build.
 

Fenixgoon

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i think im just gonna go with an AGP 754 board. by the time i upgrade after this, i'll probably have to get an entirely new machine anyway