one last trouble i have is with my old p3 450 box. it is running on a pcchips 767v (via apollo pro) 693?? with a 596a?. i doubt the southbridge is relavent but it gives me so much trouble. it was the reason i upgraded to the 733eb. but i used to be able to use win2k (at least during betas). but now, it barely installs or randomly freezes or blue screens or reboots. even nt will freeze (didnt before). i flashed the bios a few years ago, which may be the reason. pcchips does not have an older version and i dont think i do either. eitherway i get the same irql and page errors. my dad wants to be using w2k or wxp because 98 crashes way too much on him.