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PC2700 DDR using 7ns parts? I don't think so...

AnanDave

Junior Member
I just bought a 512MB stick of PC2700 ram from an as-yet unnamed online vendor. It was an OEM piece, no packaging, just wrapped in bubblewrap with a sticker on it saying "512MB PC2700 - Warranty void if removed". The problem is that the chips are all NANYA nt5ds32m8at-7k, or 7ns memory. I'm pretty sure you can't get PC2700 out of 7ns parts, but I'd like some confirmation of my analysis before I start accusing the vendor of fraud or getting the credit card company involved.

PC2700 implies 2.7Gb per second, over an 8-byte interface, so the clock must be 2700/8, or about 333MHz, which is why PC2700 is aka DDR333. Halve the clock to account for DDR, and you get a 166MHz bus. Convert the bus frequency to clock cycle time and you get 1/166 = 0.006, or 6ns; therefore you need 6ns parts to meet PC2700/DDR333. This is all at theoretical maximum sustained rates, so CAS/CL specs don't come into play.

I also searched on Google using the part number, and turned up many references to PC2100, but nothing about PC2700. I suspect that someone has "upgraded" their inventory of PC2100 parts to PC2700 with a new sticker.

Is there anything wrong with my math?

Dave
 
name the vendor you just got the wrong part me thinks. Call them.

And welcome to the forums. Newbie😀
 
You are correct. I just went through the PC2700 spec from JEDEC to make sure, but they list the following specs for DDR333 (PC2700) and DDR266(PC2100)..

SDRAM Device Cycle Time at CL = 2.5 (tCK)

DDR333 (PC2700) = 6.0ns
DDR266 (PC2100) = 7.5ns



I hope this helps... 🙂
 
Please post who you got it from so we can make sure we get the right product from them, or atleast enable your PM to get in touch w/you.
 
I'm pretty sure you can't get PC2700 out of 7ns parts

Actually some PC2100 will run 166MHz. I would also recommend calling the vendor and asking for "true" PC2700 6ns chipped memory.
 
take the inverse of 7ns and you get 142 Mhz. What you bought appears to be overclocked PC2100
 
I got it from MemoryMedia. The description on their web site says:

"Generic 512MB PC2700 DDR (333Mhz); Non ECC; Bulk package; Lifetime warranty /SAMSUNG CHIPSET"

The parts on the PCB are all NANYA 7ns, but the sticker says PC2700 - so I'm not sure if the problem is with MemoryMedia or their suppliers. In any case, they've got to fix it - I filled out an RMA request on their site Friday, no response so far. I'll call them tomorrow, and then get VISA involved if need be.

Thanks for the feedback,

Dave
 
MemoryMedia, eh?
I ordered a video card from em a while ago... turned out to be doa, so i rma'd it back to em and never got a card back. They just give me the run-around whenever I call em about it.
 
Looks like you should be trying to get your money back or getting an exchange for some true PC2700 DDR ram. 😉 Also, I would suggest visiting ResellerRatings.com to post some appropriate review of the company so people will know to stay away from them. 😉
 
I didn't know about ResellerRatings before I had the problem - I'm sure I'll be using them before I buy online again. I'm giving MM another day to respond to my RMA request, and I'll be posting my experience at RR once this is over.

(I've also got an Antex sx1035b case on eternal hold at EMS - checking RR probably would have saved me that headache too...)

Dave
 
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