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pc1066 or ddr333

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jamminjeff

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I am building a p4 2.5ghz/400mhz with a gigabyte ga-8pe667 ultra mobo. what works the best with this system ? pc1066 or ddr333 ? i have seen different topics about this, but not sure what works the best. i thought that ddr333 was the one to use, but i have seen that pc1066 works best for p4's. 😕:
 
What ratios come with that board??? You are in a interesting area...Rdram does score better the ddr at current and one needs to run pc3200+ levels to really match it in performance. BUt you are using a low fsb chip that likely wont reach 133fsb to get to true pc1066 levels.

However in a month or so these dual channel ddr mobos are rumored to be starting to surface and it will start to be a mute point...rdram wont be the best, trust me...reviews show it...

BUT, and I mean a big but...You IMO made a bad mistake in getting the high multiplier 2.5ghz chip and really if rumors of max 1:1 ratios with dual channel drr is right you wount be able to take much advantage unless you can get chip to 133+fsb and I don't see it.

So for you I think rdram will be best route...

 
1st. Welcome to the boards 🙂 2nd. posting the same thread in more than one forum is frowned upon 😉 3rd. as I stated in your other thread, that board only supports DDR so buy the Corsair XMS series DDR as it dosen't get any better than that.
 
Thanks for the welcome. i'll make sure i post in one forum. I am new at this, having alot of fun learning all of this stuff. cool, i'll go with the Corsair XMS DDR. 🙂 how about the Corsair XMS 256mb 64mx64 pc2700c2pt, Newegg has it for $96 ,free shipping. is that worth it. I want to make sure i have enough memory, work, school and play.
 
Originally posted by: jamminjeff
Thanks for the welcome. i'll make sure i post in one forum. I am new at this, having alot of fun learning all of this stuff. cool, i'll go with the Corsair XMS DDR. 🙂 how about the Corsair XMS 256mb 64mx64 pc2700c2pt, Newegg has it for $96 ,free shipping. is that worth it. I want to make sure i have enough memory, work, school and play.
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I would recomend the 512MB Corsair XMS Platinum for $158(+$0.50 2-day FEDEX shipping) from www.googlegear.com . Its worth the extra money, and they are the best ram sticks out still. Im prob gunna order the same stick after I purchase this 1982 firebird V-8 tommarow 😉 Goog luck and welcome to AT 😀

SSXeon
 
thanks for your help. i may go with the 512MB. It would be about $100 more for two sticks, not to bad. hey, what do you guys think about (if you dont mind me asking) the Nvidia ti4200 ge-force. I want to stay in that price range 🙂
 
Originally posted by: jamminjeff
thanks for your help. i may go with the 512MB. It would be about $100 more for two sticks, not to bad. hey, what do you guys think about (if you dont mind me asking) the Nvidia ti4200 ge-force. I want to stay in that price range 🙂
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NP 🙂 Yeah im getting 2x512mb stick eventually man photoshop will love that 😉 As for the Ti4200 I would recomend the ABIT Siluro GF4 Ti4200 OTES for $169.00 at newegg, HERE 😉 Everything i am recomending is what i would get right now if i had $$$ 😀 Goodluck

SSXeon
 
Cool, this is my first time building a new pc. all of your input is really helping me out. i really like this web site. 🙂😎 once i get it all together i'll let you know how it work out
 
😱 If you want 400FSB for o/c'ing you're better off with P4A 512k 2.0ghz as you should hit 533FSB and 2.67ghz. Otherwise I'd rec plumping for P4B 2.4ghz 512k 533FSB, great price : perf ... Intel really rip you off the faster CPUs.

😀 DDR333-PC2700 easily equals RIMM-PC800 perf and it's cheaper too. As for RIMM-PC1066 it gives about a 10% boost over DDR333 BUT costs twice the price, not worth it IMHO plus it's wiser to get DDR now as the next mobo you buy will likely be Dual Channel DDR. I'd weigh up the perf advanatge of the more expensive DDR RAM, personally I'd save the $50-100 and plump for decent branded but std DDR333.

😉 Gfx cards are right up my street. There's a couple of brands to avoid which cheap out on the RAM limiting o/c'ability and sometimes stability and clock speeds too. These are the AOpen 4200-128MB, EVGA 4200-64MB and I'm pretty certain the non Golden Sample 4200 cards as it seems Gainward use cheap nasty RAM in those to make the GS versions seem better than they really are!

🙂 So avoiding those brands all GF4TI are almost identical in terms of perf, o/c'ability, image quality, features etc. Best to go by price and bundle more than anything else. 4200 are an excellent buy and they come in 3 key versions:

1. 4200-64MB using 3.6ns clocked at 250/500 and o/c to about 300/600.
2. 4200-128MB using 4.0ns clocked at 250/444 and o/c to about 300/550.
3. 4200-128MB enhanced using 3.3ns BGA RAM clocked about 270/550 and o/c to between 300/640 and 300/700.

😀 A 4200 with the same RAM size clocked at the same speed as a 4400 or 4600 gives identical perf. 4400=275/550 o/c=300/640 and 4600=300/650 o/c=300/700. The 64MB cards with a higher clock don't have a huge lead in terms of actual perf (like 2-3%) but when more than 64MB becomes necessary they take a very hard drop, best to get 128MB although the 64MB version is still a fine purchase. Examples of the enhanced 4200 cards using the longer 4400/4600 board design and 3.3ns BGA RAM are:

HardOCP Asus Deluxe
Xbit Suma Special Edition
PCstats Albatron P Turbo

😱 As for the Abit OTES cards ... nice idea but simply NOT worth it IMHO. They do have 4400 standard clocks and they do reduce the amount of heat being pumped in to the case by the gfx card BUT they're VERY noisy and don't o/c significantly better than most std, quieter and cheaper 4200 cards do. Check out the reviews remembering that a std 4200-128MB should hit 300/550 while the 4200-64MB should hit 300/600 ... plus they're about average o/c's not maximum.

Sud Abit OTES
HardOCP Abit OTES
 
Wow, great info ! it looks like o/c'ing the p4b 2.4ghz will be a better deal, speed and money. the Corsair XMS DDR333 512mb platinum looks like it kick's a@@. I am going to check out all of those websites on the video cards very cool info. but the geforce ti4200 looks like the way to go, its just what one to buy. the 4200 128mb using 4.0ms and o/c to about 300/550 looks like a smoking deal. the case i have is a antec sx835two it has to built in fans and three more slots for more fans, will i need the additional three fans they are only a few bucks, but worth it if i need them.
 
Your case is going to be pretty well-ventilated if you just put the two stock fans in the rear as exhaust fans. If you'd like to set it up with five very quiet fans, SVC has good-quality NMB ball-bearing fans for $2.50 each right now, and make sure to get some 3-pin-to-4-pin adapters for them too, since your board won't have enough headers for five 80mm fans and a CPU fan too. Great choice of cases, you'll like it 😀

Considering the price difference, it seems hard to justify the PC1066 unless you know for sure it'll pay off in your usage pattern. Based on an experiment done by several P4 owners around here, PC1066 happens to be fantastic at compressing files using WinZip 8.1, for instance... almost 100% faster than DDR333. But DDR333 has more usefulness down the road, if you get a dual-channel DDR board later.
 
The next mobo I get will likely be dual-channel DDR, so the DDR333 sounds like it will be a better deal for me, and my gig mobo supports ddr333. i think i will add a couple of fans just to keep everything nice and cool. 😎 i got a smoking deal on that case.
 
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