PC Monitor for my PS3?

GhandiInstinct

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Is there an HDMI monitor that I can use for both PC and PS3 and have the same quality as I would with a 46" HDTV? Refresh rates included...

I want to be able to play GTA4 on the PS3 then switch to Crysis on PC and have no refresh rates or resolution issues.

Any recommendations friends?
 

erwos

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Any DVI monitor with HDCP support will work fine. You need HDCP. You shouldn't, but you do.
 

Kaido

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PS3 looks pretty good on my 24" Dell LCD :)
 

Wuzup101

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I have a 24" dell 2407 and a 40" samsung LN-T4065F. Both of them make great monitors. The Samsung supports 1:1 by default, and has a lot of calibration options. It is my gaming TV and I like it very much. I did have my 360 hooked up to the 24" dell for quite some time before I purchased a bigger screen. While the dell was plenty nice, I got sick of having to sit at my desk to play console games. I say buy whatever works best for your setup. If you are going to be sitting at a desk, than a 24" widescreen may be ideal. However, if you have a wall to mount it on, you could always move the desk back from a 40" set to a viewing distance of about 4-5'. This would give you a great place to watch HD media, play HD games, and do as much text work as you want.

8ms response time should be fine. Are you worried about ghosting (it should be non existent on modern LCDs)?
 

GhandiInstinct

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Here's a quote from a review for your samsung on Amazon:

I got this TV to be used with my XBOX 360. I was disappointed when I played Call of Duty 4. I wish I knew about the issues with LCDs and fast motion before I bought. You can see blurred graphics when you make fast turns. Same blurs I did not see when the 360 was hooked up to my older HD projection TV. I took the restocking fee hit to return this TV because it was not good for gaming at all. I since bought a plasma Panasonic TH-42PZ700U and in my opinions its the best TV for gaming I've seen. This Samsung TV is great for watching regular TV and slow moving movies, but I think not for gaming. I would bet any LCD TV has this issue. They claim the 120hz TVs are better, but I'm thinking its still not as good as a plasma. I though I should warn people because I read reviews saying it was great for gaming. Those folks must think the blur of graphics is normal when there is fast motion.
 

Wuzup101

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That would be motion blur... not ghosting. Even the fastest panels of the current generation have motion blur (as does the Panny 700U). It amounts to an effective loss in resolution during fast motion. In general, plasma's have less of a problem, but the problem still exists. If you want to avoid motion blur, you would be wise to buy something other than a current gen LCD.
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: Wuzup101
I have a 24" dell 2407 and a 40" samsung LN-T4065F. Both of them make great monitors. The Samsung supports 1:1 by default, and has a lot of calibration options. It is my gaming TV and I like it very much. I did have my 360 hooked up to the 24" dell for quite some time before I purchased a bigger screen. While the dell was plenty nice, I got sick of having to sit at my desk to play console games. I say buy whatever works best for your setup. If you are going to be sitting at a desk, than a 24" widescreen may be ideal. However, if you have a wall to mount it on, you could always move the desk back from a 40" set to a viewing distance of about 4-5'. This would give you a great place to watch HD media, play HD games, and do as much text work as you want.

8ms response time should be fine. Are you worried about ghosting (it should be non existent on modern LCDs)?

Are there any cons of your Samsung as PC monitor? I'm thinking about getting a 40-42" 1080p LCD TV as my computer monitor and as a second TV, and I've had a hard time getting input from someone who has used both a monitor and a TV as a PC monitor. I'd lose the desk, hang the TV on the wall, and sit at least 5' back. Is there anything that would make a PC monitor a better choice than an LCD TV (other than the 120 additional vertical pixels of 1920x1200 resolution vs. 1920x1080 resolution).

I hope this isn't hijacking the thread too much since it still deals with the OP's question, "Is there an HDMI monitor that I can use for both PC and PS3 and have the same quality as I would with a 46" HDTV?", just in reverse.
 

Wuzup101

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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: Wuzup101
I have a 24" dell 2407 and a 40" samsung LN-T4065F. Both of them make great monitors. The Samsung supports 1:1 by default, and has a lot of calibration options. It is my gaming TV and I like it very much. I did have my 360 hooked up to the 24" dell for quite some time before I purchased a bigger screen. While the dell was plenty nice, I got sick of having to sit at my desk to play console games. I say buy whatever works best for your setup. If you are going to be sitting at a desk, than a 24" widescreen may be ideal. However, if you have a wall to mount it on, you could always move the desk back from a 40" set to a viewing distance of about 4-5'. This would give you a great place to watch HD media, play HD games, and do as much text work as you want.

8ms response time should be fine. Are you worried about ghosting (it should be non existent on modern LCDs)?

Are there any cons of your Samsung as PC monitor? I'm thinking about getting a 40-42" 1080p LCD TV as my computer monitor and as a second TV, and I've had a hard time getting input from someone who has used both a monitor and a TV as a PC monitor. I'd lose the desk, hang the TV on the wall, and sit at least 5' back. Is there anything that would make a PC monitor a better choice than an LCD TV (other than the 120 additional vertical pixels of 1920x1200 resolution vs. 1920x1080 resolution).

I hope this isn't hijacking the thread too much since it still deals with the OP's question, "Is there an HDMI monitor that I can use for both PC and PS3 and have the same quality as I would with a 46" HDTV?", just in reverse.

It just really comes down to personal preference really. As you alluded to, the biggest "difference" is the change in the "work environment". Obviously, I could see a large TV being completely impractical for someone who needs a desk/workspace/platform to work on. However, if you can comfortably work at the proper distance from the display, there aren't really any specific negatives that I can think of (feel free to ask specific questions). For my 40" display, I feel that a viewing distance of about 3.5-5' is ideal. Closer than that, and I have to pivot my neck too much side to side, and farther away my eyes strain to read text (over long periods of time).

- Do make sure that you get a 1080p display (as the extra resolution is really essential for text)
- Do make sure your TV has 1:1 pixel mapping so that there is no overscan (this is becomming less of an issue with current+ gen TVs as manufactures are starting to catch on and add this feature). I know that all current Samsung LN-T40xx TVs (as well as the 46 and 52" versions) have this feature, as do the current gen sonys, and sharps (IE: 64U series), many other TVs do too... always check AVSforum specifically to make sure before purchasing.
- Do make sure that your TV will accept a full 1080p signal over the VGA port if you are using VGA instead of DVI>HDMI (this is going to sound stupid... but some TV manufs in the past didn't think this was important either - *cough*Toshiba*cough*) - again, as far as I'm aware, most of the major players have this feature (I can say that all the sammys and sonys mentioned above do... and I'm fairly certain that (though not correctly stated in the manual) the sharp 64U series does too).

http://www.carltonbale.com/wp-...s/resolution_chart.png

The chart above was made to show approximate distances where the "full benefit" of specific resolutions becomes visible (IE: that the human eye can resolve the extra detail). From personal experience, I'd say that if you are going to view un-magnified text, you should stick to a viewing distance that falls at or inside (below on the graph) the red (full 1080p) line. That is, for a 40" set... you probably shouldn't be farther than 5', for a 50" set... probably no farther than about 7.5', etc... Remember, that's just a rough guide based on my personal experience (I have ~20/20 vision).

One Caveat: I don't do any "serious" graphic work. I'm not sure how a TV will compare to the newer high color gamut monitors (as I don't own one) as far as color accuracy is concerned. The dell that I have is an original 2407 (rev A02). I can tell you that the Samsung absolutely destroys it in contrast (and yes I always have dynamic contrast turned off). From my viewing distance, text is absolutely great to read... and believe it or not you have to get pretty damn close to the set to actually start seeing pixel structure (which is nice).

Note: when it comes to TVs and such, you can bet that AVS forum will be the true place to ask specific questions (or just do a search). There are threads with tens of thousands of posts dedicated to specific TV models. They also have a pretty good HTPC forum that has a lot of good information. I would check it out before scoping out models (www.avsforum.com).