PC monitor dilemma

Nvidiaguy07

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So right now im using a yamakasi catleap 2b - which is the 120hz version. (27" 2560x1440, korean ips monitor if you havent heard of it yet) I'm loving it right now, but I'm tempted to sell it for a few reasons:

Cant hook up xbox or ps3 to it because it has no scaler and only 1 DVI input
This is probably the biggest reason for me. When I got this, I was playing 95% of my games on PC. The only ones I'd play on console were sports and stuff, so I didnt care if it was in the living room. Recently there have been a few games I want to play on PS3, but I dont wanna hog the living room TV playing Last of us for hours on end. If there were a way to play those on this - even with a 1920x1080 box in the middle of the screen I'd do it. I tried using a game capture device that was supposedly zero lag, but thats just for consoles if your doing HDMI passthrough to the TV. If anyone knows a way to do this please TELL ME!

I cant really take advantage of 120hz at 1440p with my current rig (3570k + GTX670)
At this res, I feel like im going to be fighting a losing battle against getting decent fps in games, and for a mainstream upgrader (most of the time), 1080p is still the sweet spot. With my current setup, I wont have to upgrade anything for a long time, and will get 60+ fps in games for at least 2-3 years. So If i sell this monitor, not only would I be getting money for selling it, but also saving money on not upgrading.

Another reason for wanting to sell is when the price of a good 4k monitor comes out I think thats a better option for me short and long term. If I had a 4k display now, i would just have all pixels doubled, and set the res to 1080p - which is fine for now. I would still get the advantage of that much more screen real estate when using the desktop. Finally when I do decide to upgrade some of my hardware some years down the road, Ill be able to game on 4k.

From writing this, I think i realized I should sell it, but let me know what you think. I should mention I have a 24" 1080p monitor that I have been trying to sell that im going to downgrade to, so I wont have to go out and find another monitor.

If you are at all interested in buying this, PM me. I know they are pretty rare, and I went nuts trying to buy this one last year.
 

tweakboy

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Why such low resolution ???

Go 1080p your 670 will last you some time until Ivy E comes out.. thx gl

IF you wanna play at 1440 you will get soo much more FPS that 670 will last you years. gl
 

akugami

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Wouldn't an Active DVI adapter work for using a games console to your monitor?

I'm not sure myself, just trying to throw suggestions and possible solutions out there for you.
 

Nvidiaguy07

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Wouldn't an Active DVI adapter work for using a games console to your monitor?

I'm not sure myself, just trying to throw suggestions and possible solutions out there for you.

from reading around, I guess I would need a dual dvi adapter - which dont exist from what i hear. I would be totally cool with setting it to 720p and quadrupling the pixels, but I dont think thats possible. I wish they sold a true HDMI pass through device with no lag so i could just pull it up in a window on my PC. Id even take a a component pass through if that were possible.
 

Black Octagon

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I think you'd miss it, personally. If you do sell and buy something new, don't go back to 1080p. Onwards and upwards in the resolution department. Always
 

spat55

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If your in the UK, I might want that myself....

EDIT: Just seen your in Connecticut. Why not just get a cheap 1080p for your console? You might aswell keep that monitor, as they are really nice and I know I couldn't go back to a lower resolution now as I have gotten far to use to 1440p.
 
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Nvidiaguy07

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I think you'd miss it, personally. If you do sell and buy something new, don't go back to 1080p. Onwards and upwards in the resolution department. Always

If your in the UK, I might want that myself....

EDIT: Just seen your in Connecticut. Why not just get a cheap 1080p for your console? You might aswell keep that monitor, as they are really nice and I know I couldn't go back to a lower resolution now as I have gotten far to use to 1440p.

I really only have space for one monitor in my room, so keeping both isnt really an option, especially with the way i have it set up. I played around with just using 1920x1080 with no scaling (box in the middle of my screen), and it wasnt too bad. The extra room on my desktop will be missed, but I'm not nearly as crazy as I used to be about having all high end stuff.

I really wish there were just a way to get 360 and ps3 working on this, but no big deal. I'm switching to a 1080p monitor with "real" 120hz, so that in a way is an upgrade. Ill be able to keep my current video card for much longer now. When it comes time that 4k gaming is in full swing, ill upgrade monitor and GPU at the same time - if im still even into custom pc building and such by then.

The older I get, the less I wanna mess with things, and just have something thats good enough - dont care if its not the best anymore really. Im actually most looking forward to something like a surface pro with MUCH better graphics that might be able to handle all the current games when it comes out.
 

cmdrdredd

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Doesn't your GPU scale internally anyway? I have used 1080p on my Catleap and it wasn't horrible and it was full screen.
 

Nvidiaguy07

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Doesn't your GPU scale internally anyway? I have used 1080p on my Catleap and it wasn't horrible and it was full screen.
yea the gpu does the scaling - but thats not the problem here. The problem is I cant hook up a ps3 or 360 up to this monitor.
 

SolMiester

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IPS 120hz 1440p?, i know of at least 1 forum member that was asking after these?..Are they a new product?
 

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IPS 120hz 1440p?, i know of at least 1 forum member that was asking after these?..Are they a new product?

To my knowledge these are all after production modifications, the hardware is exceeding the specs to deliver 120hz.

I don't think there's been any reports of that being a hardware issue, none of them have blown or anything like that, however these are IPS panels with slow pixel response times which means that the 120hz looks crap because the pixels spend most of their time transitioning colour rather than displaying their intended colour.

Ideally for 120hz you want 1-2ms pixel response time otherwise your picture starts to become a blurry mess

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Searching for the Yamakasi monitor for example, one of these so called overclockable IPS monitors, shows it's G2G pixel response time is 9.3ms, pretty much what you'd expect for an IPS panel.

120hz is 8.333ms per frame, so on average these panels just cannot switch to show the right colour before displaying the next frame.

It's why no one reputable will sell them as 100 or 120hz panels, because they're not fit for operation at those speeds.
 
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Black Octagon

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however these are IPS panels with slow pixel response times which means that the 120hz looks crap because the pixels spend most of their time transitioning colour rather than displaying their intended colour.

Ideally for 120hz you want 1-2ms pixel response time otherwise your picture starts to become a blurry mess

*edit*

Searching for the Yamakasi monitor for example, one of these so called overclockable IPS monitors, shows it's G2G pixel response time is 9.3ms, pretty much what you'd expect for an IPS panel.

120hz is 8.333ms per frame, so on average these panels just cannot switch to show the right colour before displaying the next frame.

It's why no one reputable will sell them as 100 or 120hz panels, because they're not fit for operation at those speeds.

Source for the 9.3ms number? My understanding is that the GTG pixel response time of these panels is ≦6ms (as declared by the manufacturer, anyway). Having one of these monitors myself, I notice no colour switching issues, and I came to this monitor directly from another 120Hz (TN) monitor, namely the Samsung S27A950D. I find it every bit as responsive as the Sammy.