PC Gaming Sucks

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tabulate jaeger

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OK so I migrated from an Xbox 360 to a PC about 3-4 months ago and I have been regretting it since.

Here's why:

1. Crashes, the PC is hugely prone to crashes and freezes making some games nearly unplayable. My 360 has never crashed on me in the 4 years I have owned it.

2. Bugs, PC gaming is absolutely RIDDLED with bugs that consoles never encounter. An example, I've had skyrim on Xbox and PC, the Xbox version always worked flawlessly except for a few minor bugs but OH S*** was the PC a different story. I had freeze upon freeze during battles and when riding horses, animals and NPCs would launch 50 meters in the air and plummet to their deaths, I fell through the world countless times (and got killed by some invisible power whenever I entered Riften????) Playing Tropico 5 made me want to gouge my eyes it was so buggy (mind you I was playing these games well after release).

3.FPS, People love to say that PC has amazing visuals and all and that's true, a PC will obviously beat a console but to be honest a PC's FPS are so volatile, I got 80+ FPS in Arma 3 but as soon as a large firefight brokeout, boy did that s*** drop, (not to mention when people threw more than 4 smoke grenades). At least with a console the FPS will almost always be stable and look smooth unless you have like 10 nukes set off at once but I have almost never experienced anything other than smooth visuals.
This brings me on to visuals. People say that the visuals are so much better on PC but to be honest they're not, playing BF4 on ultra was barely any better than on the Xbox and who cares anyway? You're running and shooting not picking flowers and having a picnic by the river.

4. Major titles and AAA games multiplayer, PC is constantly overshadowed by developers, most games are made for consoles and ported to PC (horrendously) look at GTA 5, 4, AC Unity, etc... It's as though developers are rereluctant to make PC versions, like a dog owner tossing the leftovers at his annoying, obnoxious dog.
AAA games multiplayer is absolute cr*p, COD is far from my favorite series but it's fun every once in a while but guess what? It's desolated. The only thing you can play is TD because Domination is deserted. Same with many BF4 playlists and AC multiplayers.

5. Friends, wanna play at a friend's house?
PC: pick up your huge a** tower and lug it to their house plug everything in and get make sure he has a monitor + mouse and keyboard.
Console: take your controller

All in all the consoles are cheaper, more stable, will work for every game available for them for the next 7 years, more populated and prioritized.




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You sound like the kind of gamer who would enjoy a console more. Play on that and have fun.


These are all issues that have been brought up before.
 

Majes

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You sound like the kind of gamer who would enjoy a console more. Play on that and have fun.


These are all issues that have been brought up before.

Yup, PC seems too overwhelming for you. Enjoy your consoles. They are made just for you.
 

tabulate jaeger

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'PC gaming seems to overwhelming for you' so you're telling me that a badly made system (Gaming on PC) is not overwhelming in itself? And tell me what is the true difference between PC and console gaming that makes it so much better than consoles except for visuals?
 

tential

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You didn't mention your pc specs...

I've seen so many people complain about pc gaming then build horrendous pcs.
 

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'PC gaming seems to overwhelming for you' so you're telling me that a badly made system (Gaming on PC) is not overwhelming in itself? And tell me what is the true difference between PC and console gaming that makes it so much better than consoles except for visuals?

Mods, breadth of gaming library, game prices, kb/m support, ridiculous number of peripherals (Oculus, tons of steering wheels, HOTUSs, TrackIR, etc etc), 120hz+ gaming, and such. Also to say "except visuals" is obtuse. That is a huge draw to PC gaming. That's like saying, "what's so great about about driving a race car, except the driving part?"

No body ever said it was as smooth as the console experience.
 
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tabulate jaeger

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You didn't mention your pc specs...

I've seen so many people complain about pc gaming then build horrendous pcs.

Gtx 750Ti dual ski
Intel core 17 4770k
Water cooled chipset, GPU and CPU
Thermal paste (of course)
2x 1TB Samsung evo 840 sad raid 0
Corsair 1300 PSU
16 gb ram
 

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Except that these days, it is usually smoother. Sure you have some bad ports, but that is more because devs are lazy than anything to do with PC gaming itself.

Some people just aren't cut out to use PCs. Only person who can fix that is you.

PS. I have zero of the issues you mention.
 

tential

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Mods, breath of gaming library, game prices, kb/m support, ridiculous number of peripherals (Oculus, tons of steering wheels, HOTUSs, TrackIR, etc etc), 120hz+ gaming, and such. Also to say "except visuals" is obtuse. That is a huge draw to PC gaming. That's like saying, "what's so great about about driving a race car, except the driving part?"

No body ever said it was as smooth as the console experience.

Anyone claiming the console experience in 2014 is flawless is down right lying.
Launches have servers that essentially don't work.
Games have massive day 1 patches that take forever to apply.
To get my wii u play Mario kart from unpacking to gameplay took about 2 hours.
Consoles are far from without their issues.

Not saying pcs are perfect at all but I only get crashes on brand new titles which haven't been patched (I call these paid betas).
 

tential

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Gtx 750Ti dual ski
Intel core 17 4770k
Water cooled chipset, GPU and CPU
Thermal paste (of course)
2x 1TB Samsung evo 840 sad raid 0
Corsair 1300 PSU
16 gb ram


You think your pc is better than it is and are playing at specs out of your range.
Buy a real graphics card next time.

You paired a budget power conscious GPU thay doesn't perform well compared to price with a top tier CPU.
As always, it comes down to learning to spec correctly.

Having raid 1TB ssds and a weak GPU like that, should have dropped 1of those ssds and gotten a top tier GPU to match the CPU instead of raid ssds and a weak low tier GPU.

Whoever specced your pc screwed you. At that price you paid you have a complete mismatch of parts.
 
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tabulate jaeger

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Mods, breath of gaming library, game prices, kb/m support, ridiculous number of peripherals (Oculus, tons of steering wheels, HOTUSs, TrackIR, etc etc), 120hz+ gaming, and such. Also to say "except visuals" is obtuse. That is a huge draw to PC gaming. That's like saying, "what's so great about about driving a race car, except the driving part?"

No body ever said it was as smooth as the console experience.

Most games cost 60$ on release for at least 3 months and never fall below 30$.
Racing games aren't known for being one of the main sellers... (Xbox has Gran Turismo though)
So you're saying you can buy a 3000$+ PC over a console just for the graphics (wtf?)

And if it's not smooth why would you buy it? It's like getting a Ferrari and driving it onto dirt tracks and they tell you no one ever said you'd be driving on asphalt.
 

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'PC gaming seems to overwhelming for you' so you're telling me that a badly made system (Gaming on PC) is not overwhelming in itself? And tell me what is the true difference between PC and console gaming that makes it so much better than consoles except for visuals?

Besides visuals?

Cost of games
User Created Content / Mods
Ability to upgrade system at leisure
Tighter controls for FPS games
Larger variety of aftermarket accessories (ie. microphones, headsets, kb&m)
Steam Family Sharing
Ability to customize game controls to personal preferences
etc...
 

tabulate jaeger

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You think your pc is better than it is and are playing at specs out of your range.
Buy a real graphics card next time.

You paired a budget power conscious GPU thay doesn't perform well compared to price with a top tier CPU.
As always, it comes down to learning to spec correctly.

So you're telling me 2 gtx 750ti's can't handle Arma 3 on ultra but there are videos of an alienware 17 gtx 880m core i7 4710MQ running it on ultra.

Please what a joke.
 

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Most games cost 60$ on release for at least 3 months and never fall below 30$.
Racing games aren't known for being one of the main sellers... (Xbox has Gran Turismo though)
So you're saying you can buy a 3000$+ PC over a console just for the graphics (wtf?)

And if it's not smooth why would you buy it? It's like getting a Ferrari and driving it onto dirt tracks and they tell you no one ever said you'd be driving on asphalt.

Your first mistake was buying a $3k PC and thinking it would just run flawless because you spent that much money on it. That is why PC gets a bad wrap. It's user error....not PC error.

Anyway, just another troll thread. No point responding.
 

cbrunny

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You spent money on 750ti SLI and then WATERCOOLED them?

Edit: Oh wait. 750ti does not SLI. I'm guessing this is completely made up.
 
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tabulate jaeger

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Besides visuals?

Cost of games
User Created Content / Mods
Ability to upgrade system at leisure
Tighter controls for FPS games
Larger variety of aftermarket accessories (ie. microphones, headsets, kb&m)
Steam Family Sharing
Ability to customize game controls to personal preferences
etc...

*sigh* as I said before AAA games cost 60$ and 30$+ after a few months
Mods are so damn unstable 99% of the time
Consoles don't need to be upgraded every game released for them will work just fine
I'm perfectly fine with a controller
Accessories: Console: Mic. PC: mic, keyboard, mouse, mousepad, monitor, etc...
Controls on console are perfect for every game I've played so far
 

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Most games cost 60$ on release for at least 3 months and never fall below 30$.
Racing games aren't known for being one of the main sellers... (Xbox has Gran Turismo though)
So you're saying you can buy a 3000$+ PC over a console just for the graphics (wtf?)

And if it's not smooth why would you buy it? It's like getting a Ferrari and driving it onto dirt tracks and they tell you no one ever said you'd be driving on asphalt.

What are you talking about price-wise? You don't know the right sites to go to if you are paying $60 for PC games. I got Shadows of Mordor for $26 on launch and Civ:BE for under $30 on launch. Dragon Age Inquisition was on sale for under $40 on GMG VIP around launch. There are tons and tons of games for super low prices. If you like steam sales then your library will be 100+ games in no time.

Xbox has Gran Turismo? Lol are you being serious here or just trolling?

$3000 PC and you have 750ti's? I feel bad for you. You can get a 970 for $299 and have fun gaming at high easily.

Obviously, you can't understand what makes PC gaming great (mods are unstable? lol, missing the point entirely.) Just sell your stuff and get a PS4.
 

tabulate jaeger

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Your first mistake was buying a $3k PC and thinking it would just run flawless because you spent that much money on it. That is why PC gets a bad wrap. It's user error....not PC error.

Anyway, just another troll thread. No point responding.

3000$+ was an example my PC costed much less (built it myself)

So user errors cause bugs, crashes, terrible fps, instability, desertion and difficult transportation? YOU SIR ARE A GENIUS *obvious sarcasm*
 

tential

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So you're telling me 2 gtx 750ti's can't handle Arma 3 on ultra but there are videos of an alienware 17 gtx 880m core i7 4710MQ running it on ultra.

Please what a joke.

This is why I don't recommend PC gaming for people like yourself.
Because you don't understand enough about PC hardware.
2 GTX 750Ti's is the equivalent of saying
"I have more money than you because I have 2 $20 bills and you onyl have 1 $100 bill"

Your PC specs rated:
i7-4770k (Great choice!)
2 x GTX 750Ti's (watercooled) HORRENDOUS CHOICE. First off, you don't watercool this GPU. It's a low power GPU. IT NEVER gets hot no matter what. So watercooling it is a waste of money. Second off, you dont' get 2 of this GPU. It's NOT fast, it's not meant to be fast, it's meant to be for budget gamers looking for an upgrade for a PC with a small PSU (We'll touch on your PSU in relation to this choice later).
2 x 1TB SSD's in RAID configuration. (BAD CHOICE AGAIN. This isn't because it's slow, it's because you have a TERRIBLE GPU to start. 1 TB ssd (no raid), and put that money towards your GPU.
1300 W PSU (Are you fisting me? Seriously? Your whole PC doesn't draw more than 400 watts(ballpark guesstimate but NO WHERE CLSOE TO 1300). What are you doing with a 1300W PSU?)

What you could have gotten for that price in specs?
i7-4770k
2xGTX 970s (Like literally 4x faster than your GXT 750TI's
1TB SSD
720 W PSU
16 GB of RAM

You messed up speccing. That's why you're unhappy. Surprised no one else knew right away that you had bad specs.

My suggestion is you never spec your own PC again until you have a better udnerstanding of the PC market. Also, exactly what GPU do you have? Exact model number.

Edit: If possible, if ANYTHING is under return period, return it now. I can still salvage this build relatively easily. (don't return your CPU/Mobo/Ram obviously.)
 
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tabulate jaeger

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What are you talking about price-wise? You don't know the right sites to go to if you are paying $60 for PC games. I got Shadows of Mordor for $26 on launch and Civ:BE for under $30 on launch. Dragon Age Inquisition was on sale for under $40 on GMG VIP around launch. There are tons and tons of games for super low prices. If you like steam sales then your library will be 100+ games in no time.

Xbox has Gran Turismo? Lol are you being serious here or just trolling?

$3000 PC and you have 750ti's? I feel bad for you. You can get a 970 for $299 and have fun gaming at high easily.

Obviously, you can't understand what makes PC gaming great (mods are unstable? lol, missing the point entirely.) Just sell your stuff and get a PS4.

I use: Steam, GOG and Origin
 

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I would've never RAID 0's the SSD's. There really is no benefit, except you run the risk of your raid controller potentially failing and then boom. Getting your data back is a hassle. It's fast enough, so I wouldn't run RAID on it. Unless you're overclocking, Most games run fine in factory conditions. 750TI sounds like a budget GPU, though you may wanna skimp out on the GPU (which is the worst choice) But just don't expect perfectly smooth framerates. Get rid of one of the EVO 1TB and both the 750ti's, and you should have enough for a gtx 980
 
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tabulate jaeger

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This is why I don't recommend PC gaming for people like yourself.
Because you don't understand enough about PC hardware.
2 GTX 750Ti's is the equivalent of saying
"I have more money than you because I have 2 $20 bills and you onyl have 1 $100 bill"

Your PC specs rated:
i7-4770k (Great choice!)
2 x GTX 750Ti's (watercooled) HORRENDOUS CHOICE. First off, you don't watercool this GPU. It's a low power GPU. IT NEVER gets hot no matter what. So watercooling it is a waste of money. Second off, you dont' get 2 of this GPU. It's NOT fast, it's not meant to be fast, it's meant to be for budget gamers looking for an upgrade for a PC with a small PSU (We'll touch on your PSU in relation to this choice later).
2 x 1TB SSD's in RAID configuration. (BAD CHOICE AGAIN. This isn't because it's slow, it's because you have a TERRIBLE GPU to start. 1 TB ssd (no raid), and put that money towards your GPU.
1300 W PSU (Are you fisting me? Seriously? Your whole PC doesn't draw more than 400 watts(ballpark guesstimate but NO WHERE CLSOE TO 1300). What are you doing with a 1300W PSU?)

What you could have gotten for that price in specs?
i7-4770k
2xGTX 970s (Like literally 4x faster than your GXT 750TI's
1TB SSD
720 W PSU
16 GB of RAM

You messed up speccing. That's why you're unhappy. Surprised no one else knew right away that you had bad specs.

My suggestion is you never spec your own PC again until you have a better udnerstanding of the PC market. Also, exactly what GPU do you have? Exact model number.


1300W PSU: I got this PC with the intentions of upgrading it in the future
3000$: it was an example, mine costed less
2x 750ti: I was planning on upgrading when they would strain (especially for the GTA V release)
Water cooling: upgrading (again)

So you see I set off thinking I'd be gaming on PC for many years to come and based my whole plan on upgrading in the future but now that I know how PC gaming is I don't think anymore money will go into it
 

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You had no plan, I'm not even convinced you actually have a PC. Even computer challenged people have more sense than you've shown so far.

First post PC hate thread....I mean really.
 
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