PC gaming is still alive, Nvidia post record revenue

[raghu78]

What a load of nonsense.

When a company does well, this generally gives them room to invest further. This, for example, is why NVIDIA's R&D budget has been able to climb over the last several years while AMD's has shrunken. NVIDIA can simply afford to invest more to realize the products of tomorrow thanks to the financial successes of today.

If you genuinely think that a company like NVIDIA (or any reasonably well run tech company) will say, "oh look, we're profitable, time to hit the brakes" then you really have a poor understanding of business reality. In the fast paced world of semiconductors, you can't afford to rest on your laurels lest some other hungrier/more aggressive company comes in and starts ripping away market share from you.

R&D cycles for these products are on the order of YEARS, so it's very difficult to recover from a screw-up (see: Bulldozer).

Anyway, if you look at the trend in NVIDIA's R&D you can see very clearly that they aren't just kicking their feet up and coasting; they're investing more today because that's what it takes to be successful tomorrow.

We know Nvidia is investing in R&D. The question is why is support for older gen cards so underwhelming. Nvidia's shady tactics are more designed towards accelerating upgrade cycles as they leave the n-1 gen users hung out to dry. This manipulation of user upgrade cycles is what is being argued about which you are trying to evade. Anyway hope you are being compensated for your staunch defense. :thumbsup:

 

[Azix]

What a load of nonsense.

When a company does well, this generally gives them room to invest further. This, for example, is why NVIDIA's R&D budget has been able to climb over the last several years while AMD's has shrunken. NVIDIA can simply afford to invest more to realize the products of tomorrow thanks to the financial successes of today.

If you genuinely think that a company like NVIDIA (or any reasonably well run tech company) will say, "oh look, we're profitable, time to hit the brakes" then you really have a poor understanding of business reality. In the fast paced world of semiconductors, you can't afford to rest on your laurels lest some other hungrier/more aggressive company comes in and starts ripping away market share from you.

R&D cycles for these products are on the order of YEARS, so it's very difficult to recover from a screw-up (see: Bulldozer).

Anyway, if you look at the trend in NVIDIA's R&D you can see very clearly that they aren't just kicking their feet up and coasting; they're investing more today because that's what it takes to be successful tomorrow.

A company doesn't actually have to use the extra money in a way that benefits consumers. eg. the extra money gives them flexibility to manipulate their product stack to exploit consumers or pay pay PAY devs more and more to wreck the market and spend more on gameworks, invest more to build the next gameworks to work well only on pascal etc. Make deals with OEMs. The only good thing for gamers to me is game bundles because nvidia itself does not push the industry forward.

Doing well is not always good for us.

 

[raghu78]

A company doesn't actually have to use the extra money in a way that benefits consumers. eg. the extra money gives them flexibility to manipulate their product stack to exploit consumers or pay pay PAY devs more and more to wreck the market and spend more on gameworks, invest more to build the next gameworks to work well only on pascal etc. Make deals with OEMs. The only good thing for gamers to me is game bundles because nvidia itself does not push the industry forward.

Doing well is not always good for us.

Trying to reason with him is futile. He has decided that Nvidia is right because they are having record GPU sales. That kind of logic is just rubbish. There are many examples of companies which have abused their market power which he also knows about.

 

[Phynaz]

You gaming on an FX CPU like your avatar suggests? ()

Zzzzzzzzzziiiiiiiinnnnnnnngggg.

 

[Phynaz]

3 pages later. Spot on. And its already turned into an AMD vs Nvidia fight by the ADF.

Yep, ADF derail by the third reply.

Warning issued for thread crapping.

-Rvenger

 

[Leadbox]

So who's hosting the party this weekend to celebrate nvidia's record earnings? Let's celebrate their success:awe:

 

[nvgpu]

Don't bother arguing with the ADF, they're spiteful, hateful people that are jealous of successful companies like Nvidia and Intel just like a certain idiot that runs AlwaysInaccurate website and spreading FUD & lies that always get DEBUNKED.

The mods here don't do their job either of deleting and banning these ADF troll posts & posters.

Bye

-Rvenger

 

[Leadbox]

Don't bother arguing with the ADF, they're spiteful, hateful people that are jealous of successful companies like Nvidia and Intel just like a certain idiot that runs AlwaysInaccurate website and spreading FUD & lies that always get DEBUNKED.

The mods here don't do their job either of deleting and banning these ADF troll posts & posters.

Is that a mod callout I see there D:

 

[SimianR]

Apparently making an observation about the sad state of GPU marketshare and how it poorly serves PC Gamers = AMD Defense Force? Yet coming into the thread and making sarcastic comments/one liners like "LOL ADF" is real productive and really contributes to the discussions in this forum. :thumbsup: Brilliant! We actually have a user in here named after NVIDIA calling other posters the "ADF"...

 

[Rvenger]

Looks like nothing more to discuss here. Infractions pending for those who derailed above.

-Rvenger