PC Gamer top 100 games list

[thespyder]

Yeah, so it looks like they went out to publishers and said 'How much to get your game on the list?' and the ranked by the dollar 'Contribution'. Explains why games like Baldur's Gate and Xcom aren't on the list. the developers are not around anymore in any form that would cough up money for the games.

As for newer games over older ones, I am all for shinier graphics and the evolution of games over time. but quite frankly, very little of what I see today falls into my idea of Evolution. More derivation than anything. Just because something came out this year, doesn't mean that it is preforce evolution of previous games. Just because it has better graphics doesn't mean that it is a 'better game'.

I have been obsessing about Skyrim since it came out. But i wouldn't consider it top 10 of all times material. Morrowind was much more original for it's time. So was Fallout 3 for that matter.

My personal list would be something like this:

Baldur's Gate 1&2 (plus ToB)
GTA 3 (I hated the game but it was at least original)
Morrowind
Fallout
Diablo
Doom
Xcom: UFO Defense
C&C
Ultima

Each of the above still have hard core fans in significant numbers even today. Each more or less started their own genres, or at least fundamentally changed the existing genre for all times. And each was innovative in their own right. And every one has the distinction that even today game designers are still trading on the name/franchise. And they are legends.

I haven't played Portal, so I can't comment on it, but I would be that 25 years from now people will say "Portal? Never heard of it."

At the end of the day, "Best of all times" better change the genre for all time in some fundamental way. For me anyway.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Oblivion was not a *great* game. It was a solid game, but it's flaws kept it from being engaging. The enemy leveling system was so problematic that it ruined the game. Nor can you judge a game based on what others do with it. You can't say it's a great game if you need 3rd party mods to get an enjoyable experience.

My first attempt to play it, I had non-combat major skills and got way overleveled for my combat ability to be able to progress far in the game.

On later attempts, I purposefully made bizarre classes (mage skills as primary, but never used magic) so that I could stay really low level.

I still got bored shortly after closing 1 or 2 oblivion gates each time I tried to play it.


Skyrim was a better game by far. I didn't get bored with it until about 50 hours in (so then I powered through the rest of the main quest, and haven't touched it since). Yes, it had leveling enemies, but it was not as obvious, and did not apply to random rats on the street...

One of my favorite things to do in Skyrim is go around and stealth kill every giant I can find with my bow, since at the start of the game they knocked you into space with one hit.

The dragons, however, seem to level along with my player. I have a lot of points into archery, but to kill the ancient dragons, I pretty much need to make them land and use melee.

Btw, I have over 100 hours in the game, and have a huge amount of quests left. However I have gotten kind of burned out and just go back for a few hours now and then. I am still working on the Thieves guild and mages guild quests.

 

[natto fire]

I put as much merit into these lists as the constant barrage of made up statistics I am assaulted with every day. At least this list is only making PCGamer look like the fools they are, other made up lists and stats are ruining much more in politics.

 

[Ferzerp]

One of my favorite things to do in Skyrim is go around and stealth kill every giant I can find with my bow, since at the start of the game they knocked you into space with one hit.

The dragons, however, seem to level along with my player. I have a lot of points into archery, but to kill the ancient dragons, I pretty much need to make them land and use melee.

Btw, I have over 100 hours in the game, and have a huge amount of quests left. However I have gotten kind of burned out and just go back for a few hours now and then. I am still working on the Thieves guild and mages guild quests.

Dragons auto-leveled, as well as the main (and sub?) quest areas based on the first time you entered them. I never looked in to it too in depth. I was just interested in playing and not picking it apart (unlike oblivion where it was so in your face, you had to research it to avoid making a character that would cause all the enemies to be gods compared to your glass joe fighting ability).

Now if only they could somehow make it where sneak archer isn't the most effective character type (without doing a ton of min maxxing) in every elder scrolls game... Every time I play one, no matter how i start, i find myself sneak archering.