PC built around GTX 1050TI

[moneer]

Hey AT. So I guess it's time for me to start saving up and build a much better pc for myself, I already have a 1050ti and a hdd I suppose, and need recommendations on a build to complement the gpu and not hit the wallet very hard.
CPU and mobo is what I am mainly unsure of getting. And having the ability to upgrade later on in the future will be a big bonus.

Thanks in advance!!

 

[Valantar]

What kind of games will you be playing? What is your budget? Do you have a monitor? If so, what size and resolution? Do you need any other peripherals? Any preference regarding size/weight/portability, silence, airflow, anything like that?

 

[moneer]

What kind of games will you be playing? What is your budget? Do you have a monitor? If so, what size and resolution? Do you need any other peripherals? Any preference regarding size/weight/portability, silence, airflow, anything like that?

I would like to play the latest games at high-ultra settings and hit 60fps 1080p, which the 1050ti should be capable of. I have a tv with actual resolution of 768p but I may be upgrading to 1080p. I need no other peripherals nor have any kind of preference to size, anything will do.

The tv upgrade isn't included in the budget, and I guess 200-300 for cpu, mobo, ram, psu, and case.

I assume that 8gb is enough for now, which should cost around 35 bucks, and a 400watt psu should be enough, costing around 40-50. Cases shouldn't cost a whole lot, maybe another 30-40. Leaving 100-200 for cpu and motherboard?

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[Ken g6]

I wouldn't bet on a 1050ti doing everything you want. But in your budget you're in low-end territory anyway. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KZCNpb

 

[VirtualLarry]

I would like to play the latest games at high-ultra settings and hit 60fps 1080p, which the 1050ti should be capable of.

I don't think that the 1050ti has the chops to play modern 2016 AAA games at 1080P "Ultra", but you should at least be able to play them @ 1080P, whatever setting you have to lower them to.

Regardless, $300 for CPU/RAM/mobo/case/PSU isn't much. You're talking i3 territory here.

 

[moneer]

I don't think that the 1050ti has the chops to play modern 2016 AAA games at 1080P "Ultra", but you should at least be able to play them @ 1080P, whatever setting you have to lower them to.

Regardless, $300 for CPU/RAM/mobo/case/PSU isn't much. You're talking i3 territory here.

Well I can almost do that now with the 1050ti paired with an old xeon x3370, I get around 45-50 fps. Not full 100% ultra settings, and especially not AA, but most other settings at high to ultra settings. I'm hoping that a cpu upgrade will help bring me to the 60fps sweet spot.

I wouldn't bet on a 1050ti doing everything you want. But in your budget you're in low-end territory anyway. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KZCNpb

That i3, since it has 4 threads, is it pretty much a quad core?

 

[cbn]

Well I can almost do that now with the 1050ti paired with an old xeon x3370, I get around 45-50 fps. Not full 100% ultra settings, and especially not AA, but most other settings at high to ultra settings. I'm hoping that a cpu upgrade will help bring me to the 60fps sweet spot.

A E5 1620 or E5 1650 would be a strong upgrade over that LGA 771 Xeon.....so maybe you should consider a used LGA 2011 Workstation?

E5 1650 (Sandy Bridge 3.2 GHz /3.8 GHz 6C/12T, 15MB cache) with 6C turbo @ 3.6 Ghz
E5 1620 (Sandy Bridge 3.6 GHz /3.8 GHz 4C/8T, 10MB cache) with 4C turbo @ 3.7 Ghz

 

[moneer]

A E5 1620 or E5 1650 would be a strong upgrade over that LGA 771 Xeon.....so maybe you should consider a used LGA 2011 Workstation?

E5 1650 (Sandy Bridge 3.2 GHz /3.8 GHz 6C/12T, 15MB cache) with 6C turbo @ 3.6 Ghz
E5 1620 (Sandy Bridge 3.6 GHz /3.8 GHz 4C/8T, 10MB cache) with 4C turbo @ 3.7 Ghz

Aren't 2011 motherboards expensive as heck?
And looking at some benchmarks on youtube. 1050ti + i3-6100 yield almost the same results as my old xeon 3ggz processor. Does cpu not matter much in games such as witcher 3, rise of the tomb raider, dark souls 3?

 

[cbn]

Here are some CPU results from Fallout 4 (A 2015 AAA game):

Notice how the i7 3970X (A Sandy Bridge 6C/12T which has a mere 100 Mhz faster 6C turbo than E5 1650 and 200 Mhz faster 1C turbo than E5 1650) beats everything but the i7 5970X.

 

[cbn]

Aren't 2011 motherboards expensive as heck?

Yes, but complete HP, Dell, Lenovo 1P Workstations from refurbishers aren't too expensive. (Of these, the HP Z420 seems to be the cheapest)

 

[moneer]

Yes, but complete HP, Dell, Lenovo 1P Workstations from refurbishers aren't too expensive. (Of these, the HP Z420 seems to be the cheapest)

I'm not trying to argue that cpu does not impact performance at all. I was simply wondering if the quad core x3370 can compete with the dual core i3-6100 in terms of performance in-game.

As for those prebuilt workstations. Seems that they go for around 300 on ebay but that's without some components such as ram or come with a quadro.

 

[cbn]

As for those prebuilt workstations. Seems that they go for around 300 on ebay but that's without some components such as ram or come with a quadro.

Here is a complete (refurbished) machine with E5-1620, 8GB, 250GB HDD, Windows 10 Pro (from Newegg) for $335.99 plus $1.99 shipping:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883285692&cm_re=hp_z420-_-83-285-692-_-Product

 

[cbn]

I'm not trying to argue that cpu does not impact performance at all. I was simply wondering if the quad core x3370 can compete with the dual core i3-6100 in terms of performance in-game.

The Core i3 6100 will definitely be faster than X3370 (which is basically a Q9650).

 

[moneer]

Here is a complete (refurbished) machine with E5-1620, 8GB, 250GB HDD, Windows 10 Pro (from Newegg) for $335.99 plus $1.99 shipping:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883285692&cm_re=hp_z420-_-83-285-692-_-Product

Thank you for sharing that. I will definitely try to save up for that pc. Thank you very very much for your answers!

 

[cbn]

Thank you for sharing that. I will definitely try to save up for that pc. Thank you very very much for your answers!

Another nice point about the LGA 2011 Workstations is that they have eight DIMM slots and use Registered ECC DDR3.....and right now Registered ECC DDR3 is really cheap. (Example, I have seen HP branded 8 x 4GB Registered ECC DDR3 1333 kits on ebay for $40 shipped).

With that mentioned, there is a forum member who brought up concern about compatibility issues with various LGA 2011 WS and various Registered ECC RAM.....However, I'll bet HP branded Registered ECC DDR3 is a safe bet in a HP Z420 Workstation.