Paypal is secure

[matas]

I logged on my paypal account this morning. I noticed that I have a warning message. It said that my account was used to make a unauthorized payment of 650 AUD. I opened a dispute and hopefully I get my money back. I think it would be a good idea to change all of my passwords now. How you guys ever experienced this?

 

[spaceman]

i djont trjust pjaypal

 

[effee]

good luck with that....

 

[bignateyk]

Paypal sucks. I haven't used it since they stole $300 from me about 8 years ago.

 

[matas]

is there only a small chance of getting this money back? But paypal is needed everywhere, especially eBay.

 

[Injury]

The only secure paypal account is a closed paypal account.

Originally posted by: matas
is there only a small chance of getting this money back? But paypal is needed everywhere, especially eBay.

There is a chance of getting this money back, but don't be surprised if you have to fight tooth and nail to do so. Think about it. You wouldn't give your bank account information out to someone you know and see on a regular basis, why the hell would you give it to a company that may be hundreds of miles away, and why would you expect them to really give a shit if someone steals your money?

Who really gives a shit about eBay? There are other places to get things and the prices on eBay aren't that great anymore. eBay has created its own form of currency in Paypal and it more or less has forced it on people and are slowly working away from allowing other forms of payment. Their customer service sucks ass.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Injury
The only secure paypal account is a closed paypal account.

This. I have had money stolen from me due to their lack of security as well and I NEVER used the account more than once. I had it for like 3-4 years, used it once to make an E-Bay purchase, and never touched it again. 3-4 years later, I had money stolen from me through it. Explain that one..

 

[SP33Demon]

Get the hardware key idiots.

 

[ViRGE]

If you have a PP account, it's madness not to get the security fob. It's not perfect, but it'll keep away people unless you're being targeted specifically.

 

[Deviant Grasshopper]

I hate paypal. They screwed me once before (or technically a buyer scammed me and paypal would do nothing whatsoever to help).

I'll take a personal check before paypal.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Get the hardware key idiots.

Look at my example above. My PW for PayPal in unique. Obviously a hardware key is not good enough.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Get the hardware key idiots.

Look at my example above. My PW for PayPal in unique. Obviously a hardware key is not good enough.

Somewhere, somehow, someone sniffed or brute forced your password. It's not as if someone is walking through a backdoor in the PP system and randomly depleting accounts. A security fob would have still protected you.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Get the hardware key idiots.

Look at my example above. My PW for PayPal in unique. Obviously a hardware key is not good enough.

Somewhere, somehow, someone sniffed or brute forced your password. It's not as if someone is walking through a backdoor in the PP system and randomly depleting accounts. A security fob would have still protected you.

From what source though? As I stated, I had not used that account or password for years. I also reformat at least once every 6 months. There was nothing on my computer to find.

 

[AlienCraft]

Paypal is one of the biggest scams out there. Acting as a bank (issuing debit cards / taking and holding funds) without being a bank in the eyes of the law, allows them to act with impunity and in a way that REAL BANKS are enjoined from doing.
ANYBODY who uses PayPal does so at their own peril.

< PERSONALLY knows of Russian Mob infiltration of eBay/ Paypal.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Get the hardware key idiots.

Look at my example above. My PW for PayPal in unique. Obviously a hardware key is not good enough.

Somewhere, somehow, someone sniffed or brute forced your password. It's not as if someone is walking through a backdoor in the PP system and randomly depleting accounts. A security fob would have still protected you.

From what source though? As I stated, I had not used that account or password for years. I also reformat at least once every 6 months. There was nothing on my computer to find.

I couldn't say. I completely agree that it's far fetched if you take good care of your access terminals, but there's really no other plausible explanation.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Look at my example above. My PW for PayPal in unique. Obviously a hardware key is not good enough.

Somewhere, somehow, someone sniffed or brute forced your password. It's not as if someone is walking through a backdoor in the PP system and randomly depleting accounts. A security fob would have still protected you.

From what source though? As I stated, I had not used that account or password for years. I also reformat at least once every 6 months. There was nothing on my computer to find.

I couldn't say. I completely agree that it's far fetched if you take good care of your access terminals, but there's really no other plausible explanation.

Unless you totally ignore the distinct possibility of corruption from within PayPAL, or that their system has been compromised, either of which would not reach news sources unless a whistleblower intervened. (sic)

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Get the hardware key idiots.

Look at my example above. My PW for PayPal in unique. Obviously a hardware key is not good enough.

Somewhere, somehow, someone sniffed or brute forced your password. It's not as if someone is walking through a backdoor in the PP system and randomly depleting accounts. A security fob would have still protected you.

From what source though? As I stated, I had not used that account or password for years. I also reformat at least once every 6 months. There was nothing on my computer to find.

You were keylogged during the one time you logged in. Stop looking at pr0n and/or get a better virus/spyware detector. Also get the PP hardware key and you should never have a problem again (unless someone keylogs you AND has access to your hardware key = epic fail).

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Look at my example above. My PW for PayPal in unique. Obviously a hardware key is not good enough.

Somewhere, somehow, someone sniffed or brute forced your password. It's not as if someone is walking through a backdoor in the PP system and randomly depleting accounts. A security fob would have still protected you.

From what source though? As I stated, I had not used that account or password for years. I also reformat at least once every 6 months. There was nothing on my computer to find.

I couldn't say. I completely agree that it's far fetched if you take good care of your access terminals, but there's really no other plausible explanation.

Unless you totally ignore the distinct possibility of corruption from within PayPAL, or that their system has been compromised, either of which would not reach news sources unless a whistleblower intervened. (sic)

If that's the case someone would have made off with a small fortune by now. I obviously can't disprove it, but if you have inside access to a bank, you don't pilfer a few cents here and there, it just doesn't make much sense.

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Get the hardware key idiots.

Look at my example above. My PW for PayPal in unique. Obviously a hardware key is not good enough.

The DoD thinks otherwise. I got issued one to be able to access things from home.

It's kind of a pain if the key gets out of the sync with the security server, especially if the time window between key refreshes is narrow.

 

[P0pinjay]

Interesting that this just happened to you too. I had someone charge my account twice, in british pounds, about a week and a half ago. The person apparently bought skype credits with it. Luckily I put a dispute in with both paypal and my bank...my bank reversed the charges within about a week.

Like you, I rarely use my paypal account. I've used it maybe a dozen times in the 7 years I've had it.

 

[SunnyD]

I'll return your $650 only after you pay a ransom, I mean finders' fee of $325 in advance.

 

[pontifex]

someone used my account recently for $30 worth of EVE Online time cards. the company they bought it from sent me a confirmation email and that is how I found out. i told them i didn't order it and they refunded my money immediately. did a claim with paypal but never heard back from them. also ordered the security fob.