Payback is Gonna Be a Bitch, new news from Drudge

AaronP

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1. NYT says that the hijackers were followers of Bin Laden
2. according to Israeli Intellegence IRAQ financed the attacks.

ouch, someone is gonna get a fire up their ass.
 

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<< 1. NYT says that the hijackers were followers of Bin Laden
2. according to Israeli Intellegence IRAQ financed the attacks.

ouch, someone is gonna get a fire up their ass.
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what the hell is Drudge? where's the link?

Israel can say anything right now and the US will believe it... we don't need an excuse to go and destroy Sadam though... this should have been done long ago.
 

spanky

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all i have to say is that they are pretty f*cked. they r probably shaking in their boots right now.
 

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<< according to Israeli Intellegence IRAQ financed the attacks. >>

bin Laden has assets in excess of $200 million, why would he need Iraq to finance anything? I like Drudge, but you gotta take much of what he says with a grain of salt.
 

AaronP

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it takes more than just money, it takes logistical assets, the kind of stuff that governments can plan, that I don't know if one single man can mastermind, even if he's rich.
 

spanky

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if u really think about it, all it cost to take the plane down was a $.50 razor. :eek:
 

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<< it takes more than just money, it takes logistical assets, the kind of stuff that governments can plan, that I don't know if one single man can mastermind, even if he's rich. >>

bin Laden and his advisors have been masterminding terrorist attacks for years, I think he's got the logistics covered.

<< if u really think about it, all it cost to take the plane down was a $.50 razor >>

There is now evidence that more than a dozen terrorists took flight training in the U.S. costing upwards of $10,000 each. It now looks like even more targets were planned, but those plans fell through for some reason.

Someone was funding this, rather well. I don't think it would take Iraq to do it, bin Laden is filthy rich, unless Iraq got with bin Laden and said "We want to help you get back at America in a really big way!" It's possible that Iraq just wanted to be a part of all this, though its rather sloppy to allow those outside your closely-knit group to get involved.
 

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<< 1. NYT says that the hijackers were followers of Bin Laden
2. according to Israeli Intellegence IRAQ financed the attacks.

ouch, someone is gonna get a fire up their ass.
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If Iraq financed it, then we're at war...

If that is the case, I cannot imagine for even a second that Bush Jr. won't finish what Bush Sr. started...

If Iraq financed it, then Saddam is a walking dead man... Mark my words...

Jason
 

SJ

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First off, these aren't stories by drudge, they are stories by the national and world press.

The Drudge Report is like a search engine for all the major news. It has links to all the major stories for the day or on a slow news period, week. Sometimes he does get scoops, like the Lewinsky scandel and getting the Jesse Jackson affair info out before it went on news stands..

If Bin Laden did it alone, Afghan is gone. According to Russia and Pakistan, Bin Laden was appointed commander and cheif of the Taliban's armed forces sometime in August, possibly sooner.
 

AaronP

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you are correct SJ, sometimes, its easy to just go to drudge and after awhile you stop seeing "NYT:" or "Washington Post:" and ya just read the headlines.
 

SJ

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Well that wasn't directed at you its to people that say the Drudge Report isn't credible. It is credible, as credible as any other national or world publication...
 

tcsenter

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<< Well that wasn't directed at you its to people that say the Drudge Report isn't credible. It is credible, as credible as any other national or world publication... >>

Nobody said Drudge wasn't credible. But, since you mention it, I wouldn't characterize Drudge as "credible" just because he has broke a few leading stories before anyone else.

The Boston Globe has also broke many leading stories in recent years. But, like Drudge, their "hit to miss" ratio ain't none too impressive.
 

SJ

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Tscenter, as I said before 99% of the stuff on the Drudge Report are links to places like the New York Times, the Washington Post and various other places. Sure there are some false stories, but that is not fault to Drudge, its the fault of the publication that printed the story. Drudge just merely gets the info out there easier, by putting links to pressing stories all on one page. Most stuff on there would normally be missed by most people, me included if it weren't on there.
 

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Yeah, and israel doesn't have any benefits with pointing the finger at their enemies...

don't believe a country who has an advantage in your choice of destruction straight away, there's a pretty big chance they might be lying to achieve what they want.

i wouldn't be surprised if it was one big israeli conspiracy. It's not hard to find some jewish fanatics, paint em up a bit to look like arabs, make sure you're seen by someone, and leave arabic books in your car.

Aelus
 

tcsenter

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<< Tscenter, as I said before 99% of the stuff on the Drudge Report are links to places like the New York Times, the Washington Post and various other places. Sure there are some false stories, but that is not fault to Drudge, its the fault of the publication that printed the story. Drudge just merely gets the info out there easier, by putting links to pressing stories all on one page. Most stuff on there would normally be missed by most people, me included if it weren't on there. >>

I'm very familiar with Drudge's site. I'm also very familiar with Drudge's commentary.
 

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<< if u really think about it, all it cost to take the plane down was a $.50 razor. >>


and $50,000 cash to train the two pilots at a school in florida.

They had resources.
 

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Of course a razor may only cost $0.50, but that is most definitely not the only costs involved in this whole thing, a lot of money has to have been involved. They need to have paid for everyone involved to live learn and hide sufficiently until the operation was exucted. Probably included all living expenses, food etc. I don't know (not a clue actually) how many people were involved, but I'd imagine it was a large enough number, which would get quite expensive. If this dude has all this money, then he didn't really need government funding. And if he's been in terrorism for so long, I doubt he needs someone to plan things out for him either. That doesn't however eliminate the possibility of a government or governments being involved, it could still be true.

We just have to wait and see. I hope this gets resolved in the most peaceful manner possible, but I smell war. :(

-RSI
 

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Don't forget...Bin Laden was trained by our own CIA...he is supposedly extremely intelligent. He very well could have produced this operation on his own. He is also very knowledgeable about large commerial contruction/design...he owned a premier construction business in Saudi. He must have very well known that when he crashed fully fueled 767's into the WTC, the intense heat would penetrate the core steel supports, and create a collapse up top of several floors, which ultimately would lead to a domino collapse of the entire building. You will also see that those pilots struck the towers at the absolutely perfect position...about 3/4 way up...they also banked each of their planes just before striking to ensure the best chance to weaken more than 2-3 floors. These acts were carried out to military precision. I still can't believe that 5-6 buildings have been completely destroyed in that area. Many would think it's just bad luck, but I have a feeling Bin Laden knew what he was going to destroy...and that's extremely sad. H*ll is too good a place for him.

I hope the US plans a retaliation out very carefully... Bin Laden is un-predictable with MANY followers who are trained to the level of high ranking soldiers with a taste for terrorism. We don't want to lose another 500-1000 men in combat. It's not going to be a walk in the park like many people think...bombing the snot out of the country is just dumb. It will fuel other fundamentalist groups to commit more acts of terrorism...Afghanistan is not our only concern...about 5-7 others are...and what if they get hold of a nuclear bomb? Iraq is a ticking time bomb.

Bin Laden has numbers of decoy doubles, moves around 3-5 times a week, and is very powerful within the government.
 

Rifter

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<< Yeah, and israel doesn't have any benefits with pointing the finger at their enemies... >>



I do not think Israel would do this, they are a honorable people, plus the Mossad(Spelling?) is the best intelligence agency in the world. If anyone knows whats up over there its them.