Paul Ryan's speech in 3 words...

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Guess she doesnt like her job at Fox much..fired in 3..2..1 lol

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/

Paul Ryan’s speech in 3 words

By Sally Kohn
Published August 30, 2012
FoxNews.com


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  • Aug. 29, 2012: Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan addresses the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla. (AP)​
1. Dazzling
At least a quarter of Americans still don’t know who Paul Ryan is, and only about half who know and have an opinion of him view him favorably
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So, Ryan’s primary job tonight was to introduce himself and make himself seem likeable, and he did that well. The personal parts of the speech were very personally delivered, especially the touching parts where Ryan talked about his father and mother and their roles in his life. And at the end of the speech, when Ryan cheered the crowd to its feet, he showed an energy and enthusiasm that’s what voters want in leaders and what Republicans have been desperately lacking in this campaign.
To anyone watching Ryan’s speech who hasn’t been paying much attention to the ins and outs and accusations of the campaign, I suspect Ryan came across as a smart, passionate and all-around nice guy — the sort of guy you can imagine having a friendly chat with while watching your kids play soccer together. And for a lot of voters, what matters isn’t what candidates have done or what they promise to do —it’s personality. On this measure, Mitt Romney has been catastrophically struggling and with his speech, Ryan humanized himself and presumably by extension, the top of the ticket.
2. Deceiving
On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.
The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated.
Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling
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Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under President George W. Bush
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. Ryan actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to prevent other plants from closing.
Fact: Though Ryan insisted that President Obama wants to give all the credit for private sector success to government, that isn't what the president said. Period.
Fact: Though Paul Ryan accused President Obama of taking $716 billion out of Medicare, the fact
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is that that amount was savings in Medicare reimbursement rates (which, incidentally, save Medicare recipients out-of-pocket costs, too) and Ryan himself embraced these savings in his budget plan
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Elections should be about competing based on your record in the past and your vision for the future, not competing to see who can get away with the most lies and distortions without voters noticing or bother to care. Both parties should hold themselves to that standard. Republicans should be ashamed that there was even one misrepresentation in Ryan’s speech but sadly, there were many.
3. Distracting
And then there’s what Ryan didn’t talk about.
Ryan didn’t mention his extremist stance on banning all abortions with no exception for rape or incest, a stance that is out of touch with 75% of American voters
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Ryan didn’t mention his previous plan to hand over Social Security to Wall Street.
Ryan didn’t mention his numerous votes to raise spending and balloon the deficit when George W. Bush was president
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Ryan didn’t mention how his budget would eviscerate programs that help the poor and raise taxes on 95% of Americans in order to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires even further and increase — yes, increase —the deficit
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These aspects of Ryan’s resume and ideology are sticky to say the least. He would have been wise to tackle them head on and try and explain them away in his first real introduction to voters. But instead of Ryan airing his own dirty laundry, Democrats will get the chance.
At the end of his speech, Ryan quoted his dad, who used to say to him, “"Son. You have a choice: You can be part of the problem, or you can be part of the solution."
Ryan may have helped solve some of the likeability problems facing Romney, but ultimately by trying to deceive voters about basic facts and trying to distract voters from his own record, Ryan’s speech caused a much larger problem for himself and his running mate.
Sally Kohn is a writer and Fox News contributor. You can find her online at http://sallykohn.com or on Twitter@sallykohn.






 

PJABBER

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LOL, Sally Kohn is part of the reason FOX can say it is "fair and balanced."

Kohn represents the "progressive" left on that network but you are as likely to have seen her on MSDNC.

From Wiki -

Community organizing

Previously, Kohn was Senior Campaign Strategist with the Center for Community Change, where she served as co-Director. She also previously served as Executive Director of the Third Wave Foundation. Kohn held a program fellowship at the Ford Foundation, helping to manage more than $15 million in annual grants. She was also a distinguished Vaid Fellow at the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Policy Institute. Kohn has consulted at organizations such as the Urban Justice Center. She was also a strategic adviser to the Social Justice Infrastructure Funders.

Media career

She has appeared on MSNBC shows The Ed Show and The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell.[2] Kohn has also published op-eds for outlets including Fox News,[3] The Washington Post, The Nation, The Christian Science Monitor, and USA Today. She is also a contributor to The Huffington Post. She currently serves as a Fox News Channel contributor.

Personal life

Kohn met her partner, Sarah Hansen, at the World Social Forum in Porto Alegre, Brazil, in 2003. Hansen works as an activist and consultant, and is the former Executive Director of the Environmental Grantmakers Association. They have a 3 year old girl, Willa Eliza Hansen-Kohn.
 

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LOL, Sally Kohn is part of the reason FOX can say it is "fair and balanced."

Kohn represents the "progressive" left on that network but you are as likely to have seen her on MSDNC.

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So you've identified where she is on the political spectrum. Excellent.

Now, do you disagree with any parts of her analysis?
 

PJABBER

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So you've identified where she is on the political spectrum. Excellent.

Now, do you disagree with any parts of her analysis?

Sigh, the topic of the thread seems to be that a FOX News commentator expressed a far left "progressive" commentary and that this would result in her losing her job.

Do you now agree that FOX represents a balance of perspectives? A balance that is not seen in the product of any other network?

:awe:
 

Matt1970

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She needs her fact check source fact checked.

The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated.
Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

Looks like there is the right version, the left version, and then there is the truth.

Lowering the nation’s rating to one notch below AAA, the credit rating company said “political brinkmanship” in the debate over the debt h
ad made the U.S. government’s ability to manage its finances “less stable, less effective and less predictable.” It said the bipartisan agreement reached this week to find at least $2.1 trillion in budget savings “fell short” of what was necessary to tame the nation’s debt over time and predicted that leaders would not be likely to achieve more savings in the future.
 

blankslate

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Do you now agree that FOX represents a balance of perspectives? A balance that is not seen in the product of any other network?
Perhaps if she was regular commentator on say the Bill O'Reilly show with a 5 minute spot without interrupts to discuss her opinion then maybe.

However writing an opinion piece that one has to find on the internet isn't quite the same as watching something on t.v. especially when it's likely that a large chunk of Fox News viewers don't check the internet for news.
 

Fern

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Perhaps if she was regular commentator on say the Bill O'Reilly show with a 5 minute spot without interrupts to discuss her opinion then maybe.

However writing an opinion piece that one has to find on the internet isn't quite the same as watching something on t.v. especially when it's likely that a large chunk of Fox News viewers don't check the internet for news.

She appears on the Fox TV shows like any of their other commentators.

Fern
 

boomerang

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Perhaps if she was regular commentator on say the Bill O'Reilly show with a 5 minute spot without interrupts to discuss her opinion then maybe.

However writing an opinion piece that one has to find on the internet isn't quite the same as watching something on t.v. especially when it's likely that a large chunk of Fox News viewers don't check the internet for news.
Bah, if she had five minutes that wouldn't be enough you'd want ten.
 

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She appears on the Fox TV shows like any of their other commentators.

Fern

Do you believe Fox News is a fair and balanced NEWS network?

Can you answer this question without bringing up MSNBC, CNN, or the "librul" media?
 

blankslate

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Bah, if she had five minutes that wouldn't be enough you'd want ten.

Not really I don't watch much televised news I have an RSS feed on my lcd display on my logitech keyboard.

If something interesting comes up I'll look up a more detailed article about the blurb that appeared.

As for local community news I get most of it from from www.patch.com.

If BBC news started a 24 hour international news channel with a bit more focus on the U.S. in the states I'd probably watch that as much as I used to watch news broadcast.
 

blankslate

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She appears on the Fox TV shows like any of their other commentators. Fern

And yet their "Fair and Balanced" slogan is still laughable she probably gets the same time as the token righties on MSNBC probably get.... not much.
 

PJABBER

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And yet their "Fair and Balanced" slogan is still laughable she probably gets the same time as the token righties on MSNBC probably get.... not much.

I haven't much time to watch TV but I have seen her on the Hannity and O'Reilly shows and as part of the panels of commentators that they put on regularly. My guess is that she gets a lot of airtime for not having her own show.

She comes across quite well in the appearances that I have seen, but is often factually challenged.

By this I mean that she is very glib about relating the leftist positions she adheres to but not so adept at backing those opinions up with facts.

I have not seen her go into the all too typical lefty rage meltdown and that is a real positive.

Of course, her appearances on FOX are only part of her exposure. She is, or used to be, a very regular guest on MSDNC, where she is never challenged as that programming alternates between being mutually reinforcing self love events and venomous attacks on non-"progressives."
 

JKing106

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Fox employs Libs/Progressives, and she is one.

I don't think she's getting fired.

Fern

Nope, they have to be able to defend that "Fair and Balanced" like somehow. Just having Shep isn't enough.
 

JKing106

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She needs her fact check source fact checked.



Looks like there is the right version, the left version, and then there is the truth.

Breitbart's blog is a fucking joke. You know that right? Or do you write for them?
 

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Sigh, the topic of the thread seems to be that a FOX News commentator expressed a far left "progressive" commentary and that this would result in her losing her job.

Do you now agree that FOX represents a balance of perspectives? A balance that is not seen in the product of any other network?

:awe:

The gist of it is that even Fox had to call Ryan on his bullshit to retain a tenuous claim to credibility.

Yep- it's come to that, where even Murdoch/Ailes Inc. needs to distance themselves from Ryan.

Far left? WTF are you talking about? Her commentary is only left if you believe that facts have a leftist bias... apparently you do.
 

Matt1970

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The gist of it is that even Fox had to call Ryan on his bullshit to retain a tenuous claim to credibility.

Yep- it's come to that, where even Murdoch/Ailes Inc. needs to distance themselves from Ryan.

Far left? WTF are you talking about? Her commentary is only left if you believe that facts have a leftist bias... apparently you do.

Never mind her "facts" are wrong.
 

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I haven't much time to watch TV but I have seen her on the Hannity and O'Reilly shows and as part of the panels of commentators that they put on regularly. My guess is that she gets a lot of airtime for not having her own show.

She comes across quite well in the appearances that I have seen, but is often factually challenged.

By this I mean that she is very glib about relating the leftist positions she adheres to but not so adept at backing those opinions up with facts.

I have not seen her go into the all too typical lefty rage meltdown and that is a real positive.

Of course, her appearances on FOX are only part of her exposure. She is, or used to be, a very regular guest on MSDNC, where she is never challenged as that programming alternates between being mutually reinforcing self love events and venomous attacks on non-"progressives."

Don't you consider it a bit convenient that she's a perfect choice for allowing people to "embrace" alternate viewpoints without being faced with skilled, informed debaters who don't agree with conservatives?
 

PJABBER

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Don't you consider it a bit convenient that she's a perfect choice for allowing people to "embrace" alternate viewpoints without being faced with skilled, informed debaters who don't agree with conservatives?
Such as?