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WinkOsmosis
Banned
Why don't you guys set your updater to check for updates automatically?
1) most MS patches dont need reboot - just stop, patch and restart service - read the accompanying text
2) have a look at freshmeat over the course of week and see how many qmail, postfix, proftpd , apache, BIND, sendmail, et all "updates/patches/bugfixes" there are
3) the number of people trying to break win32 is directly porportional to the number of users of win32
2) have a look at freshmeat over the course of week and see how many qmail, postfix, proftpd , apache, BIND, sendmail, et all "updates/patches/bugfixes" there are
3) the number of people trying to break win32 is directly porportional to the number of users of win32
I've gone through this several times in this forum alone. But I'll do it again.
First, many different groups release security information for the same daemons. So just looking at the number of, say sendmail, security e-mails does nothing. Many of them are repeats.
Second, several of the same type of service is listed.
qmail, postfix, and sendmail are all mail servers. Most people don't run multiple mail servers on the same machine. So, I'll just choose one. qmail. No advisories listed on security focus. On another site I see one possible exploit for vpopmail, and a couple of DDoSes, many of which can be solved by setting up the server properly.
BIND: Use djbdns.
Apache: IIS has it's share of exploits, I don't think this is worth going into.
ProFTP: Choose something else then. PureFTP maybe. But yes, each has exploits out there for various versions. Again, IIS has had it's share of exploits.
I don't want to have to go through every 3rd party Windows program looking for advisories. But, if there are a few that we should mention, feel free to list them.
Again, looking at ALL 3rd party applications when it comes to *nix but ignoring 3rd party applications for Windows is not a fair assessment. Again, my point is valid.
Shuxclams
Diamond Member
Easiest way to settle this score is to simply point out that Windows is trying desperatly to be looked at seriously as a "data center" OS... which it isnt and likely will never be as that space is alomost completly *NIX of some form. Not only is that important in the fact that more than 75% of all "real" computing happens in the data center, is also makes up 80% of the total profits for all servers.... so in reality, the fact that Windows install base is so large really only goes to show that there is a need for an OS specifically targeted for marginally compitent administrators and users. As for security and the direct proportionality you suggest, then you might want to look at basic facts about what is the largest/fastest growing segment of installed OS's and the amount of services/applications being served from those OS's. That said you are now free to go back to your job and stare at your MCSE cert that is woefully useless outside of impressing your boss.
SHUX
draggoon01
Senior member
there's a new critical update posted
Jeff7
Lifer
Any idea when they're going to get around to fixing this irritating bug? It's not only the double-scroll thing - I can't drag the scroll-bar thing for more than a full page sometimes. Then it just turns into a little crossed-circle (whatever that's called), stops scrolling, and when I release the button, it takes me to the end of the page.
Can you verify that it was discovered today (or the day of the post you quoted)? Many bugs go unpatched for a while before the vendor releases anything. Plus there are always the vulnerabilities that aren't public. And as far as getting infected with worms, there have been several that successfully infect machines immediately after the initial REBOOT. It is definitely possible someone can get infected in a couple of hours.
FelixDeCat
Lifer
And you know this how? Right, you dont.
BG-
"But there are two other techniques: one is called firewalling and the other is called keeping the software up to date. None of these problems (viruses and worms) happened to people who did either one of those things. If you had your firewall set up the right way ? and when I say firewall I include scanning e-mail and scanning file transfer -- you wouldn't have had a problem. "
Damn that sounds familiar.
"But there are two other techniques: one is called firewalling and the other is called keeping the software up to date. None of these problems (viruses and worms) happened to people who did either one of those things. If you had your firewall set up the right way ? and when I say firewall I include scanning e-mail and scanning file transfer -- you wouldn't have had a problem. "
Damn that sounds familiar.
techwanabe
Diamond Member
Win 98 saved my A$$ when MSBlaster hit a few months back. Now I'm running 2000 tho
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