Pat Roberts is pond scum

RightIsWrong

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I am watching Meet the Press and listening to the POS weasel and apologize for everything this administration has done. He should resign if he believes that his duty is to be a partisan lackey for the president instead of a lawmaker that is supposed to make sure that laws are upheld and, if not applicable anymore, to write new ones that are.

He needs to go immediately.

Wonder if he finished up Phase II of the SIC yet? Probably still hasn't even called another meeting on it.

He sucks.
 

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I wanted to watch that program, but because of the snowstorm, NBC is showing some reporter standing outside for hours.
 

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I am watching Meet the Press and listening to the POS weasel and apologize for everything this administration has done. He should resign if he believes that his duty is to be a partisan lackey for the president instead of a lawmaker that is supposed to make sure that laws are upheld and, if not applicable anymore, to write new ones that are.

He needs to go immediately.

Wonder if he finished up Phase II of the SIC yet? Probably still hasn't even called another meeting on it.

He sucks.
My thoughts as well.

They just finished talking about Phase II. I was amazed to see that someone of Roberts' age can dance and spin so well. What a joke. What a disgrace.
 

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Originally posted by: NJDevil
I wanted to watch that program, but because of the snowstorm, NBC is showing some reporter standing outside for hours.

You can catch it on the web after 1pm EST. They reply the entire show at their site:

MTP Website

You need to watch to see him avoid every question Russert throws out regarding Bush just going to Congress to get the laws changed.
 

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Originally posted by: NJDevil
I wanted to watch that program, but because of the snowstorm, NBC is showing some reporter standing outside for hours.
They'll have the whole show available for download beginning at 1:00 p.m. EST. Here is the URL they gave: Link
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
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You need to watch to see him avoid every question Russert throws out regarding Bush just going to Congress to get the laws changed.
Also note how he completely ignores the fact that you can submit a FISA request 72 hours after the fact, even though one of the other guests had just explained it. He just kept repeating the same tired BushCo propaganda. Naturally, Russert didn't press him on it. I hope the folks in Kansas are proud of their lap dog. Fetch. Roll over. Good boy!
 

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: NJDevil
I wanted to watch that program, but because of the snowstorm, NBC is showing some reporter standing outside for hours.
They'll have the whole show available for download beginning at 1:00 p.m. EST. Here is the URL they gave: Link

thanks :)
 

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Yeah, he was so extraordinarily annoying with his constant pandering to Bush throughout the interview. And I just checked, he isn't up for re-election in 2006.
 

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Originally posted by: her209
Is his seat up for election this year?

Heh, there isn?t any way the folks in Kansas would get rid of Pat, but I'm pretty sure he isn't. Daschle is looking happy this morning. I do find it interesting that Pat said they interviewed over 250 analysts, including the analyst that came out this week questioning the use of intelligence by the administration, and not one of them questioned the use when they were interviewed. Why didn?t he express these opinions when he was being interviewed by the Senate Intelligence Committee? The only thing he noted from the interviews was that they stated they were questioned and questioned often about the reliability of the intelligence.
 

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Originally posted by: NJDevil
I wanted to watch that program, but because of the snowstorm, NBC is showing some reporter standing outside for hours.

HAHA. Seriously. Isn't the media response to storms stupid? Ridiculous! And then the State HAS to keep the roads in such a way that people can continue to drive 80 MPH. Common sense died a long time ago.
 

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Did anyone here Tim Russert ask something like, "do you believe the president has the authority, under the constitution, to do whatever he feels is necessary to proect americans"

Pat Roberts: Yes.

Wow.
 

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Why am I not surprised that a senator from friggin' Kansas is chair of the Intelligence committee?!

KS . . . a state so dumb that leadership insists future generations of Kansans aim even lower.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Why am I not surprised that a senator from friggin' Kansas is chair of the Intelligence committee?!

KS . . . a state so dumb that leadership insists future generations of Kansans aim even lower.
Intelligent Kansan? Oxymoron.

 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Why am I not surprised that a senator from friggin' Kansas is chair of the Intelligence committee?!

KS . . . a state so dumb that leadership insists future generations of Kansans aim even lower.
Intelligent Kansan? Oxymoron.

Well that may be a bit harsh . . . my comment as well. There are plenty of decent, intelligent people in Kansas. Pat Roberts just isn't one of them.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Why am I not surprised that a senator from friggin' Kansas is chair of the Intelligence committee?!

KS . . . a state so dumb that leadership insists future generations of Kansans aim even lower.
Intelligent Kansan? Oxymoron.

Well that may be a bit harsh . . . my comment as well. There are plenty of decent, intelligent people in Kansas. Pat Roberts just isn't one of them.
J/K

 

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I just watched the show, and my only regret is, the only reply I can come up with is a huge QFT for all the replies so far. :thumbsup: :p
 

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I like the part when he grabs the memory pills. That's when he really started sucking air.
Of course, that would only be obvious to an objective person who makes decisions for him/herself instead of letting others think for them.
Fact is, anybody who knows what FISA says knew that Robertson's explainations were total BS's.
Unfortunately, most people don't know what FISA says.
 

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Originally posted by: db
I like the part when he grabs the memory pills. That's when he really started sucking air.
Of course, that would only be obvious to an objective person who makes decisions for him/herself instead of letting others think for them.
Fact is, anybody who knows what FISA says knew that Robert's (not Robertson) explainations were total BS's.
Unfortunately, most people don't know what FISA says.

Fixed for the record...they're both bottomfeeding pond scum but we still need to keep the names correct ;)

 

RightIsWrong

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Why does he even fake it anymore? Why not just state the obvious....he is a rubber-stamping lackey with no regards for the people of this country.

Senate Panel Decides Against Eavesdropping Inquiry, for Now
By DAVID STOUT

WASHINGTON, Feb. 16 ? The Senate Intelligence Committee decided today not to investigate President Bush's domestic surveillance program, at least for the time being.

"I believe that such an investigation is currently unwarranted and would be detrimental to this highly classified program," Senator Pat Roberts, Republican of Kansas and chairman of the panel, said this afternoon following a closed session.

While Mr. Roberts's announcement signaled that the administration's eavesdropping program would not be subject to Senate scrutiny, at least for the time being, there was no guarantee that the House would not go ahead with an inquiry of its own.

Mr. Roberts said "an agreement in principle" had been reached with the administration whereby lawmakers would be given more information on the surveillance operation run by the National Security Agency.

"The details of this agreement will take some time to work out," Mr. Roberts said.But the committee's ranking Democrat, John D. Rockefeller IV of West Virginia, was clearly unhappy after the meeting and said it made no sense to pursue legislation when the full details of the surveillance program were not known. Mr. Roberts said Mr. Rockefeller's proposal for an investigation would be reconsidered when the committee reconvenes on March 7.

"If by that time we have reached no detailed accommodation with the administration concerning the committee's oversight role, it is possible that the committee may vote to conduct an inquiry into the program," Mr. Roberts said. He added, "The administration has come a long way in the last month. I am optimistic that we will have an agreement before the committee meets again."

Although Republicans outnumber Democrats, 8 to 7, on the committee, there had been some suspense over whether the panel would vote to investigate the operation. Two committee Republicans, Orrin G. Hatch of Utah and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, are among lawmakers who have called for Congress to be given more information on the N.S.A.'s operation.

Several Republican senators not on the committee have also expressed a desire for more information from the administration. And Representative Heather A. Wilson, Republican of New Mexico and chairwoman of the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Technical and Tactical Intelligence, said in a recent interview that she had "serious concerns" about the surveillance program.

Earlier today, the Senate handed the administration a victory as it voted, 96 to 3, not to hold up the Patriot Act to incorporate changes urged by Senator Russell D. Feingold, the act's most persistent critic.

Mr. Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, said he wants to make the Senate debate several more days on the bill, and under the Senate's rules he can do so. But today's vote signaled that, once Mr. Feingold has exhausted his moves, the act will indeed be renewed by the Senate before its scheduled expiration on March 10.

In explaining his continued resistance, Mr. Feingold borrowed a quote from Senator Arlen Specter, the Pennsylvania Republican who is head of the Judiciary Committee and is the bill's sponsor: "Sometimes cosmetics will make a beauty out of a beast and provide enough cover for senators to change their vote."

Mr. Feingold, not looking for cover, said, "No amount of cosmetics is going to make this beast look any prettier."

Mr. Feingold was the only senator to vote against the Patriot Act, which broadened government surveillance powers, when it was passed by Congress shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The senator has insisted all along that the act impinges too much on personal liberty in the pursuit of national security.

"We still have not addressed some of the most significant problems with the Patriot Act," Mr. Feingold insisted today.

Joining him in voting "no" were Senators Robert C. Byrd, Democrat of West Virginia, and James M. Jeffords, an independent from Vermont. Mr. Byrd is first in seniority in the Senate and a jealous guardian of what he considers Congressional prerogatives against intrusion by the executive branch.

Mr. Jeffords's contrarian streak was demonstrated several years ago, when he bolted the Republican Party. (Senator David Vitter, Republican of Louisiana, did not vote today.)

The White House said it was pleased at the action on the Patriot Act. "There was a good agreement that was reached by members of the Senate," said Scott McClellan, the White House spokesman. "It was reached in a good faith effort. Yet there are still some Senate Democrats that want to continue to engage in obstructionist tactics and prevent this vital legislation from being reauthorized."

The House has already voted to renew the Patriot Act. But the law met stiff resistance from some senators of both parties. Modifications to the statute in recent weeks have satisfied the overwhelming majority of the senators.

But not Mr. Feingold has complained that even as modified the bill would still allow "government fishing expeditions" through the seizure of "sensitive business records of innocent, law-abiding Americans."

Not many weeks ago, Senator John E. Sununu, Republican of New Hampshire, was among the senators sharing Mr. Feingold's concerns. But Mr. Sununu said he was satisfied with changes in the law. "In an effort like this," he said, "no party ever gets everything that they want."