Passing grade on Regents upped -- 55 to 65

Riprorin

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Passing grade on Regents upped -- 55 to 65

City voices fears as 4-year phase-in begins

Jay Gallagher
and Gary McLendon
Staff writers

(June 22, 2005) ? The state Board of Regents followed through on a promise Tuesday to raise the minimum score required on Regents tests to graduate from high school to 65 from 55 over the next four years.

"Schools with low graduation rates have found ways to improve," state Education Commissioner Richard Mills said, adding that 65 is considered the score that indicates proficiency in a subject.

The new standard calls for students entering the ninth grade this fall to score at least 65 out of 100 on two of the five required Regents tests to graduate, as well as at least 55 on the other three.

The 65 minimum will increase to three exams for students entering ninth grade in 2006, four in 2007 and all five for students starting ninth grade in 2008.

The tests are given in math, English, science, global history and geography, and American history and government.

While 92 percent of high school seniors scored 55 or better on all their Regents tests this year, only 77 percent surpassed 65. The group that scored between 55 and 65 amounts to about 19,000 students.

Rochester school officials reacted with concern to the new standard, which figures to have the greatest impact on urban districts ? New York City, Buffalo, Rochester, Yonkers and Syracuse ? where many students come from low-income homes.

Superintendent Manuel Rivera said raising the passing score without increasing funding could lead to higher dropout rates, especially among black and Latino males.

Rivera also said he's disappointed "there aren't provisions for any kind of alternative assessment process for someone to demonstrate they can meet a standard without taking ... high-stakes tests."

Pointing to state funding inequities, Rivera said he's concerned urban districts will continue to see higher student-teacher and student-counselor ratios, scarcer educational supplies and fewer extracurricular activities than suburban districts.

He did acknowledge that phasing in the plan "allows us to put into place some programs and services to make a difference."

The new policy allows for an appeals process for students who score within 3 points of the minimum. However, they will have other hoops to jump through, including a 95 percent attendance rate.

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This is pathetic. School officials crying about RAISING the minimum passing grade to 65. Come on!

As I grew up in NYS, I took Regents Exams and they're pretty easy. I think that lowest grade I ever got on one was 96 or 97.

The sad thing is, we're probably spending 10 - 13k per student for this abysmal performance.
 

Harvey

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I read the article, and I have no idea what your point is.

My first question is, does this apply only to Rochester, N.Y.? I so, all I see is a local impact. Yes, I know the article said something about an impact on other urban schools, but it wasn't clear how or why. If this only applies to Rochester, it's small, local stuff. I don't see it being worth a rant, here.

Raising standards for passing is a great idea, as long as the officials also intend to spend the money to educate the kids. Not much about that in the article, either.

Finally, they're talking about the minimum test score required to barely squeak through and graduate, not what's required to achieve excellence. Your test scores on whatever tests you took, where and whenever you took them, aren't really relevant.
 

Riprorin

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Not sure, Dave. I graduated from HS 27 years ago. I don't think that 55 was a passing grade back then.
 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No wonder kids have been getting out without being able to read.

Thus we see why this is important to Riprorin. Without being able to read, how will kids read their church hymnals and bulletins or their marching orders from Jerry Falwell?
 

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No wonder kids have been getting out without being able to read.

Thus we see why this is important to Riprorin. Without being able to read, how will kids read their church hymnals and bulletins or their marching orders from Jerry Falwell?

That was an unnecessary troll.
 

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I bet the teachers will bell the class higher.
I met my dad's boss's daughter from texas when I was in highschool, her average was over 100%. She was going to take chemistry and the topics she was studying were a year behind our equivalent in Ontario.

I know this is a weak comparison, but she went to a good school. Her dad made about $300k US or more, and she got a rx-7 for her 16th b-day. Maybe you guys can prove my small experiences wrong.
 

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Originally posted by: cobalt
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No wonder kids have been getting out without being able to read.

Thus we see why this is important to Riprorin. Without being able to read, how will kids read their church hymnals and bulletins or their marching orders from Jerry Falwell?

That was an unnecessary troll.

Have a :cookie:
 

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About 5 years ago before they lowered the passing grade to 55, you could get a "local diploma". A local dimploma had somewhat more lenient course load. For example you had the HS equivalent of rocks for jocks instead of taking 3 regents level science classes.

Then they changed it so everyone had to get a "Regents" diploma. Thus they lowered the min passing grade to 55 (from 65) for the transition phase (to prevent to many non graduates).

I think I got over 95 on all the tests except for US History which I got like a 78. Which is really strange because I had taken the Advance Placement US History test a month before and got a 5, which was the highest score you could get.
 

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Originally posted by: Stunt
I bet the teachers will bell the class higher.
I met my dad's boss's daughter from texas when I was in highschool, her average was over 100%. She was going to take chemistry and the topics she was studying were a year behind our equivalent in Ontario.

I know this is a weak comparison, but she went to a good school. Her dad made about $300k US or more, and she got a rx-7 for her 16th b-day. Maybe you guys can prove my small experiences wrong.


Hard to do, Stunt. The tests are usually at least 75% multiple choice depending on the subject matter. The same day and time in the state. They are also graded by a committee of teachers so you can't easily have one teacher cheating, everyone has to. Finally the name on the test is "blinded" until after the tests are graded.
 

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Not sure, Dave. I graduated from HS 27 years ago. I don't that 55 was a passing grade back then.

Hmmmmmm!!!!;):D:p:roll::laugh::shocked:
 

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No wonder kids have been getting out without being able to read.

Thus we see why this is important to Riprorin. Without being able to read, how will kids read their church hymnals and bulletins or their marching orders from Jerry Falwell?

Your bigotry is showing. Its kind if muffled though. Why dont you pull you head out of your ass so we can hear you better?

 

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The statement that a grade of 65 display a proficiency in anything is a joke.

This is what grades mean to me.
A Excellent 90
B Above average 80
C Average 70
D Poor 60
F Failing Below 60

I thought possibly this grading system was a little low when I went to school because in grade school 68 was the lowest score for a D.

If your doctor got a 65 would you feel comfortable with his Diagnosis?

I would expect someone to get at least a C in one subject, however since the object is to insure compliance with minimum standards, then some sort of second chance should be offerred. Even in college you can take extra courses to bring up you minimum math or english scores. There were plenty of subjects I took in school that are not worth a pile of beans. When I think of Social Studies, I wonder what good it was for.

Kinds of makes you wonder why there is no standard grading system in the USA.

I am no big fan of these tests just to get into High School. Pretty much if you can read and write and do basic math, then maybe they should just let you in.