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Parents Sue School over Hidden Cameras in Locker Rooms
- Thread starter Ime
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My high school (in a quiet small town of less than 15000 people) had metal detectors at the doors, random locker searches, random book-bag searches, etc. Funny thing is, there were never any big problems there until AFTER they started doing all that crap.
Guess it goes to show that if you treat people like criminals they will begin to act like criminals.
Guess it goes to show that if you treat people like criminals they will begin to act like criminals.
Couldn't be more correct. Williamson County Schools (The County below Nashville) have a minimum of 10 operating security cameras, in, and out, of the building at all times. My former high school, Brentwood High, had 16 total. 1 in every bathroom/locker room, 1 in every hall, 1 in the gym, 1 in each parking lot, and 1 on each face of the building. There was also a chain link fence that was locked during the day to prevent us from leaving during school hours. We had a county deputy at each exit from the building at all times. Now tell me how that isn't a prison.
not that I'm agreeing to their methods by all means here, but weren't the problems discovered because of all the searches? Or do you mean like after they started checking people's things, people started trying to sneak things in? If no one ever was searched, of course no problems would've arised because no one would've found out about them.
technogeeky
Golden Member
There is absolutely no reason to have cameras in locker rooms. Period.
Put a human in there. Put one female gym teacher in the female room, one male in the boys room.
End of story.
Put a human in there. Put one female gym teacher in the female room, one male in the boys room.
End of story.
yukichigai
Diamond Member
The only weird thing my high school did was ban cell phones and pagers on school grounds, excluding in personal vehicles. Of course this rule was made before I went to school there when the only kids who had cell phones and pagers were usually drug dealers. Apparantly they plan to eliminate the rule for all schools in the county -- though still allowing punishment for using them in class -- since a lot of kids have them now for legitimate reasons. Oh yeah, the only other thing that was weird was a "no hats" rule when inside the building. There was no real reason behind it; the principal just thought it wasn't proper. I think there were random locker searches but they did them either after hours or during breaks, and usually it was more sporadic than random.
As far as cameras go we did get cameras installed all throughout the school, but the administrators were smart enough to realize that cameras in the bathrooms or locker rooms would be really iffy. They settled for some outside them, looking at the entrances instead, which was just as effective. (A post-columbine pipebomb in the toilet hoax put that to the test; it took a little while but they found the kid who did it) If the parents want to sue for $4.2 million I think they should, because:
1) Cameras in the locker rooms are a massive privacy violation, especially with Junior High kids, nevermind the indecency issues.
2) Apparantly these were on all the time rather than only after school hours, which would be the only way I could excuse the use of them.
3) The video was stored on a computer which was connected to the internet. Screw all this password stuff; when you have something like that you shouldn't even give anybody a possible chance of hacking into it. What possible reason could you have for accessing it remotely, especially when the only people who should have access to it would have keys to the school?
4) The school has been proven excessively stupid for all of the above reasons and stupidity must be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
I do hope they sue the people who approved the cameras rather than the school district itself. Otherwise they're effectively suing themselves.
P.S. I also hope someone takes out the cameras that "may or may not be running". With a baseball bat.
As far as cameras go we did get cameras installed all throughout the school, but the administrators were smart enough to realize that cameras in the bathrooms or locker rooms would be really iffy. They settled for some outside them, looking at the entrances instead, which was just as effective. (A post-columbine pipebomb in the toilet hoax put that to the test; it took a little while but they found the kid who did it) If the parents want to sue for $4.2 million I think they should, because:
1) Cameras in the locker rooms are a massive privacy violation, especially with Junior High kids, nevermind the indecency issues.
2) Apparantly these were on all the time rather than only after school hours, which would be the only way I could excuse the use of them.
3) The video was stored on a computer which was connected to the internet. Screw all this password stuff; when you have something like that you shouldn't even give anybody a possible chance of hacking into it. What possible reason could you have for accessing it remotely, especially when the only people who should have access to it would have keys to the school?
4) The school has been proven excessively stupid for all of the above reasons and stupidity must be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
I do hope they sue the people who approved the cameras rather than the school district itself. Otherwise they're effectively suing themselves.
P.S. I also hope someone takes out the cameras that "may or may not be running". With a baseball bat.
Regs
Lifer
So true. They have to do what they have to do when it comes to sex offenders, crazy guys with guns, and pedophiles that target those schools.
Makes the parents know their kids are a little safer. They would rather safe then a perfect learning environment. It is also because of law-suits. So ironic to say that considering the topic of this thread.
fizmeister
Senior member
Pedophilia.
That school really screwed up. In my of around 1500 we've only have security camera and a police officer during the day. Its not really that bad besides the fact that we have some stupid no hats rule and the "no smoking on school property law' is not enforced at all. Many of druggies goto the parking lots, which scare me as they've got nothing out their from stopping them key a car.
waggy
No Lifer
yeah they are..but at times they NEED to be.
my wife worked in a school for a few years. besides the low pay the students were just monsters. Most did NOT want to learn or care if they did (granted the handfull that wanted to and tried she loved).
regardless cameras SHOULD NEVER be in a bathroom or locker room. If i found out they had one in my daughters locker room i would be sueing also.
when i was in high school they took all the doors off the stalls in the bathroom and wanted to put cameras in. it is bad enough takeing a crap while people are walking by but to have someone watch? that is way to much. We got lucky. the people in the cummunity complained and they never put them in.
Schadenfroh
Elite Member
if someone had a secret camera in my bathroom they would sue me for damadges to them
When I posted earlier and said there were no major problems before the "lockdown" of my old high school, this is closer to what I meant: the worst thing that would happen in a school year would be a couple of fights (that were broken up before anyone got hurt). After the lockdown, the fights disappeared and we had stabbings, gang-style beatings in locker rooms and bathrooms, crack being sold in the hallways, and guns being pulled in the parking lot.
This shift took place in less than four years without a major demographic shift; it sounds a bit ridiculous, but it happened.
This shift took place in less than four years without a major demographic shift; it sounds a bit ridiculous, but it happened.
MercenaryForHire
Lifer
I'd probably just pee on the camera.
- M4H
- M4H
Did anyone who goes / went to high school in Canada have any things like have been mentioned in this thread in their schools??? e.g. cameras, security guards, metal detectors, etc.
And what's with not being able to leave during the day??? That's weird. What did / do you do during spare periods? Stay in the school?
And what's with not being able to leave during the day??? That's weird. What did / do you do during spare periods? Stay in the school?