Parents: So what's the consensus on crib bumpers for infants?

[manimal]

Nein bumperz

nein

 

[nanette1985]

Congrats


Bumpers yes, but my kids are in their 20's. They all survived Lots of things have changed since then. Definitely follow current recommendations - makes your social life easier - you have something to talk about with other new parents.

That's a nice room.

 

[Codewiz]

There is very little point to bumpers. Why use them?

 

[JimKiler]

There is very little point to bumpers. Why use them?

Agreed, they are something pretty for the parents to look at. SIDS could be the reason bumpers are discouraged but when you read that a fan also reduces the chances of SIDS do you really want crib bumpers?

OP, congrats on soon becoming a parents, you life will change for the better.

A baby recommendation I have is to skip a high chair and get a booster seat instead. Booster seats do not take up space in a dining room, you cannot stub your toe on them when they are attached to a chair and are travel friendly. High chairs are annoying, waste space and do not travel.

 

[dainthomas]

As tender as a baby's head is, I doubt it could generate the kind of velocity required to cause damage when just rolling about in a crib. Working its way into a position where it suddenly can't breathe and lacks the strength to get out of seems more likely.

This. The kid would have to purposely smash their head into the side several times (with more force than they are capable of producing) to do any damage. Bumpers are all about convenience for the parent.

And wtf at some of the responses in this thread? Subjecting your kid to even a miniscule risk of suffocation so you don't have to dig around for a pacifier has to be one of the most idiotic things I've read on ATOT. Ever. And that's saying something.

 

[amish]

Subjecting your kid to even a miniscule risk of suffocation so you don't have to dig around for a pacifier has to be one of the most idiotic things I've read on ATOT. Ever. And that's saying something.

wow, thanks. and how many kids do you have?

 

[dainthomas]

wow, thanks. and how many kids do you have?

One daughter. Who somehow managed to not sustain massive head trauma by rolling three inches into a piece of particle board.

 

[Soundmanred]

wow, thanks. and how many kids do you have?

I have one and agree with him.

 

[Codewiz]

wow, thanks. and how many kids do you have?

Unless you are completely broke, I don't see how a pacifier is an issue......

We probably had 10-15 pacifiers. We always made sure to have multiple ones around the crib at night. We never had an issue because if I couldn't immediately find the one in the crib, I would just grab one from the side table.

 

[amish]

One daughter. Who somehow managed to not sustain massive head trauma by rolling three inches into a piece of particle board.

one son. who somehow managed to not suffocate himself on a few pieces of fabric.

and just to confirm, you do nothing for your convenience with your daughter? does she get a blanket at night?

how dare you call me an idiot for raising my son how i see fit. you aren't his parent.

 

[amish]

Unless you are completely broke, I don't see how a pacifier is an issue......

We probably had 10-15 pacifiers. We always made sure to have multiple ones around the crib at night. We never had an issue because if I couldn't immediately find the one in the crib, I would just grab one from the side table.

not broke, we keep our pacifiers downstairs in a cupboard with the bottles. i guess i'm just lazy.

 

[amish]

so let's get into SIDs and bumpers.

linked is the Canadian policy statement that is cited by everyone.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/legislation/pol/bumper-bordure-eng.php

well, fuck. if the Canadians say that it is bad, it must be really bad.

but wait, what is that?

These products may reduce the flow of oxygen rich air to the infant in the crib. Furthermore, proposed theories indicate that the rebreathing of carbon dioxide plays a role in the occurrence of SIDS.Footnote 1

does that say proposed? let's check the footnote.

http://www.firstcandle.org/~candle/cms/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Rebreathing_Carbon_Dioxide.pdf

ok, it is a nice article. well written with a nice letterhead. but let's read it and get to the good stuff.

Many SIDS parents share stories about finding their baby with a blanket or other object covering or near their head. A simple test will tell us that a blanket placed loosely over our face would not keep us from breathing – and if it did get to that point we would do something (move the blanket, fight against it or call for help) to get out of the situation. Most likely what happened with these babies is that the covering or other object caused a buildup of carbon dioxide around their head and face that triggered a SIDS
death as a result of the defect in their brainstem

i didn't know that most likely was a scientific term. also i don't see any scientific data that can corroborate their assumption that was cited in their article.

look, SIDs is scary, i get it. but it is an unexplained condition. don't crucify me for not believing that a bumper will kill my son.

 

[Codewiz]

so let's get into SIDs and bumpers.

linked is the Canadian policy statement that is cited by everyone.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/legislation/pol/bumper-bordure-eng.php

well, fuck. if the Canadians say that it is bad, it must be really bad.

but wait, what is that?



does that say proposed? let's check the footnote.

http://www.firstcandle.org/~candle/cms/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Rebreathing_Carbon_Dioxide.pdf

ok, it is a nice article. well written with a nice letterhead. but let's read it and get to the good stuff.



i didn't know that most likely was a scientific term. also i don't see any scientific data that can corroborate their assumption that was cited in their article.

look, SIDs is scary, i get it. but it is an unexplained condition. don't crucify me for not believing that a bumper will kill my son.

Wow, you got your panties in a wad.

Do more than a cursory look into SIDS. Here is my view. There is likely a genetic predisposition to SIDS. That when combined with lack of O2 rich air, can lead to trouble.

Let me also guess, you would argue to let the baby sleep on his stomach because it is only correlation between SIDS and stomach sleep.

As a parent, we did lots of things not due to paranoid but due to the fact that we didn't want to even the slightly risk when there was no reward.

I am sorry, a pacifier is not worth any risk IMO.

I am not telling you how to raise your child but just consider the risks and is the convenience of being able to easily find a pacifier worth the remote risk? If you can afford bumpers, you can afford extra pacifiers and it isn't hard to grab extras as part of your bedtime routine.

Odds are that your child won't die from SIDS. It is a remote risk but I see very little value in bumpers in general. They solve nothing and considering that lack of O2 is a risk factor, why not eliminate easy useless risks.

 

[JimKiler]

Wow, you got your panties in a wad.

Do more than a cursory look into SIDS. Here is my view. There is likely a genetic predisposition to SIDS. That when combined with lack of O2 rich air, can lead to trouble.

Let me also guess, you would argue to let the baby sleep on his stomach because it is only correlation between SIDS and stomach sleep.

As a parent, we did lots of things not due to paranoid but due to the fact that we didn't want to even the slightly risk when there was no reward.

I am sorry, a pacifier is not worth any risk IMO.

I am not telling you how to raise your child but just consider the risks and is the convenience of being able to easily find a pacifier worth the remote risk? If you can afford bumpers, you can afford extra pacifiers and it isn't hard to grab extras as part of your bedtime routine.

Odds are that your child won't die from SIDS. It is a remote risk but I see very little value in bumpers in general. They solve nothing and considering that lack of O2 is a risk factor, why not eliminate easy useless risks.

Don't forget that having a baby is expensive and any expenses I can cut I will within reason, thus another reason to not buy a possibly deadly crib bumper.

But i have heard pacifiers are like fans and reduce the risk of SIDS.

 

[waggy]

Don't forget that having a baby is expensive and any expenses I can cut I will within reason, thus another reason to not buy a possibly deadly crib bumper.

But i have heard pacifiers are like fans and reduce the risk of SIDS.

we got crib bumpers in packages of crib sheets. at one point we had 3 of them heh.

when my kids were babies there was nothing negitive about pacifiers. We had maybe 12 of them. we would keep a few in the bedroom if they lost it at night.

though some were considered safer then others. the ones with the huge bulp were not recommended. they said to get the ones that were "shaped"

shrug.

 

[dainthomas]

one son. who somehow managed to not suffocate himself on a few pieces of fabric.

and just to confirm, you do nothing for your convenience with your daughter? does she get a blanket at night?

how dare you call me an idiot for raising my son how i see fit. you aren't his parent.

Lol, I don't even know what you mean about a blanket being for my convenience. It keeps her from being cold.

And I never said you were an idiot. Those are your words. But seriously, the chance of your baby dying from lightly tapping their head on a piece of particle board is zero. The chance of them dying from suffocating on a pillow running all the way around their bed is something greater than zero.

But I couldn't care less what you do with your kid. Seriously, switch to decaf dude.

 

[Aurora57]

I completely agree that "traditional" crib bumpers should be banned. It is so sad that all these bedding companies know the dangers of these, but keep manufacturing them for the "almighty" dollar. The problem with traditional bumpers is that do not allow airflow through the crib. All babies exhale carbon dioxide and without proper airflow, that carbon dioxide simple "POOLS" inside the crib. Babies that may be prone to SIDS end up rebreathing their own carbon dioxide. Unfortunately, we don't know which baby may or may not be prone to SIDS, so why take the chance.

After hours of research, I came upon an incredible "Ventilated" crib bumper system. It allows for 100% airflow through the crib yet still provides protection for those little arms and legs to stay inside the crib. The product is offered by Oliver B. Check it out and also look at the other breatheable options out there.

 

[rudeguy]

I can't believe how distracted you guys are.

NFS4 knocked up an Italian hooker!

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I can't believe how distracted you guys are.

NFS4 knocked up an Italian hooker!

If we started complaining about every ATOTer that knocked up an ethnic-hooker then we'd need a sub forum devote...

Oh yea, L&R.