Parenting styles: Authoritative Parenting is best?

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Mai72

Lifer
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Is ADD even real?

ADHD is what children are diagnosed with. The H stands for hyperactivity.

ADD is a diagnosis for adults, and children who aren't hyperactive.

It's real, but in the past 20 years it's been severely overdiagnosed. Kids are normally hyperactive to begin with. They will drive you bonkers. But, that doesn't mean that they need ADHD medication.
 

tortillasoup

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The big thing I found with my daughter is the inappropriate blame of things.

We'll be sitting at the table eating breakfast. She'll have some scrambled eggs on a fork and she's flailing it all about like it's a conductors wand. I'll remind her that she needs to calm down and keep her fork over her plate or else her food will fall off and on the floor.

3 seconds later the eggs fly off the fork and splat on the floor. She'll look at me and scream "SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!!".

Or at bed time and she's just totally going apeshit speaking in jibberish, getting distracted at the glimmer of *ANYTHING* and it's been 20 minutes just trying to get her to get her clothes off and into PJ's. I'll clearly warn her that she has three minutes to get her act together and clothes off. There's a clock in her room, she understands time and I clearly state the time she is to be done. I give her the warning at the one minute left mark that it's almost up and she's losing her book for the night. At which point it's a total melt down scream fest of "YOU'RE SO STUPID. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!".

It's more of an issue of appropriate response and responsibility. Plus there's pathological lying, stealing, and other issues. But the total misunderstanding of fault is a big one.

That doesn't really sound like ADHD but something else.

I know you don't want to consider that diet could be a factor but maybe you should read these articles here, have her eat some probiotics and change her diet.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ues-anxiety-schizophrenia-say-scientists.html
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201209/schizophrenia-and-the-gut
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...nk-between-gut-bacteria-and-mental-health.htm
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html




Students Behave Better With Healthy Lunches -
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/AmericanFamily/story?id=125404
 

Spungo

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Catering to children is what had gotten us into the mess of entitlement.
The most obese generation in history who had the global economy handed to them in 1946 are complaining about entitlements. How ironic.


You have no data to say that that methodology creates eating disorders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge_eating_disorder

Binge eating and hoarding are caused by perceived scarcity. You even mentioned this on page 1. You said my grandma wanted me to overeat because she lived through a period of food scarcity (refrigeration wasn't common in 1930, so she had to eat everything immediately). By creating artificial food scarcity, you are teaching them to develop that same mentality. This is why most weight loss programs tell people to eat smaller meals and eat more often. It's to prevent cravings that lead to binge eating. People often joke that you should never shop for food while hungry because hunger causes people to buy way more food than necessary. If a person only eats every 6 hours, they will eat a lot of food when they can. It's a survival instinct.
 

LegendKiller

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The most obese generation in history who had the global economy handed to them in 1946 are complaining about entitlements. How ironic.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge_eating_disorder

Binge eating and hoarding are caused by perceived scarcity. You even mentioned this on page 1. You said my grandma wanted me to overeat because she lived through a period of food scarcity (refrigeration wasn't common in 1930, so she had to eat everything immediately). By creating artificial food scarcity, you are teaching them to develop that same mentality. This is why most weight loss programs tell people to eat smaller meals and eat more often. It's to prevent cravings that lead to binge eating. People often joke that you should never shop for food while hungry because hunger causes people to buy way more food than necessary. If a person only eats every 6 hours, they will eat a lot of food when they can. It's a survival instinct.

Please show me where 3 meals a day, plus snacks, creates food scarcity and obesity. Not Wikipedia. A peer reviewed scientifically based study.

You cant, because there isn't.

How many people are affected by binge eating? Is it a statistically signifcsnt portion? We're their parents the same way? Did it exist in the same ratio ad before or after? What other variables caused it? You are drawing a correlation you have no proof of.

Obesity can be traced to diet content, exercise, and eating habits, not just eating habits and certainly not 3 square meals at the appropriate times.


But please, keep spouting your childless, unscientific, unfounded, uneducated, contradictory information in a holier-than-thou manner to parents.

You know what the most insulting thing is to a parent? When some childless fucknut tries to tell them "hey, you are doing it wrong". You have no fucking clue.
 
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MarkXIX

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That doesn't really sound like ADHD but something else.

I know you don't want to consider that diet could be a factor but maybe you should read these articles here, have her eat some probiotics and change her diet.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ues-anxiety-schizophrenia-say-scientists.html
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201209/schizophrenia-and-the-gut
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...nk-between-gut-bacteria-and-mental-health.htm
http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html




Students Behave Better With Healthy Lunches -
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/AmericanFamily/story?id=125404

I can't discount it because I think the jury's still out on some of this stuff. Like I've said before, in my lifetime eggs have gone from good, to bad, to good, to terrible, to good, to......

However, I CAN tell you that I do my damndest to ensure my family gets a good, healthy diet. My teenager though is constantly stuffing shit food in her face regardless of my efforts to prevent it. She has access to yogurt and boiled eggs every single day and most of the time she simply fails to take the time and then she's a miserable mess to deal with.

Her therapist has told her numerous times that she needs to eat with her meds in the morning but getting on that bus and getting in the latest teenage drama is more important. I suppose I COULD force her to wake up early and FORCE her to sit at the table and eat a proper breakfast, but I don't want to be accused of anything.... ;)
 

clamum

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You have no data to say that that methodology creates eating disorders.
Yeah that's pretty hilarious. My brother and I were raised to eat at breakfast, lunch, and dinner. We were expected to clean our plates. My parents didn't force feed us, but the expectation was there and almost always we did eat everything on our plates. We both have no semblance of an eating disorder (lolololol) and are quite healthy. Both of us never have been big "sweets" eaters, and I dunno about my bro, but I love fruits and vegetables WAY more than anything sweet.
 

MarkXIX

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Yeah that's pretty hilarious. My brother and I were raised to eat at breakfast, lunch, and dinner. We were expected to clean our plates. My parents didn't force feed us, but the expectation was there and almost always we did eat everything on our plates. We both have no semblance of an eating disorder (lolololol) and are quite healthy. Both of us never have been big "sweets" eaters, and I dunno about my bro, but I love fruits and vegetables WAY more than anything sweet.

Like I said, kids don't know what they don't know. They'll say "No! I'm not eating that!" regardless of ever having even tried it. So, at some level, the battle is just and true, that kid's gonna eat what I put in front of them. I can't make 'em like it, but I'll be damned if they're not going to eat it 98% of the time (because lima beans and cooked green pepper are abominations).
 

artemicion

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IMO, it's kind of silly to advocate for any one style of parenting as "the best." Families live in innumerable different scenarios that will require different approaches. My parents probably fall closer to the "uninvolved" category of parenting. Very few rules or interactions. But that's because they worked or attended school 16 hours a day, 6 days a week so they could afford a house in one of the best school districts in the state (stereotypical Asian style of parenting). So they traded spending time with me with spending time at work so they could afford to surround me with well adjusted peers and teachers. I turned out fine.
 

reallyscrued

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Permissive parents here.

Got into a lot of trouble as a child then straightened out by the time college got serious. Doing alright for myself I'd like to think. I'd likely take the same route with my kid(s) if I ever had any.