paraplegic swimmer banned from paralympics because...

brainhulk

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She's not paralyzed enough :mad:

http://gma.yahoo.com/paralyzed-us-swimmer-banned-paralympics-031631386--abc-news-health.html?vp=1

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highland145

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Might not be permanently paralyzed.

Yep, that's some BS. Should sue for discrimination.
 

MontyAC

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She looks older than 18. Strange ruling that hopefully will be overturned.
 

unokitty

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Not about the lady in the original post. But apparently fake handicaps are becoming a problem for some competitions.

Fake Handicaps a Growing Problem for Disabled Sports

Cheating is becoming an increasing problem in sports events for athletes with disabilities. Rigorous inspections are supposed to root out those who are only faking a handicap, but some imposters get through -- like the supposedly blind athlete who cheered when she saw her result on the board.

Uno
 

PokerGuy

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WTF kind of stupidity is that? They're excluding her because some day it might be possible that she might be able to regain the ability to use her legs? Hey, some day I might grow wings and fly! That's complete BS.
 

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At the Sydney games in 2000, the Spanish mentally handicapped basketball team won the gold medal. It later turned out that 10 players were completely healthy. They had never completed the IQ test that was supposed to have been administered.

Holy crap, who fakes that stuff?!
That's pathetic if that poor girl can't compete and those other stories are true.
 
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zinfamous

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WTF kind of stupidity is that? They're excluding her because some day it might be possible that she might be able to regain the ability to use her legs? Hey, some day I might grow wings and fly! That's complete BS.

I agree this issue is bad and looks stupid....but your example is not comparable, sir.

She might regain the use of her legs....you will never grow wings.
 

highland145

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I agree this issue is bad and looks stupid....but your example is not comparable, sir.

She might regain the use of her legs....you will never grow wings.
Avatar says different.:colbert:

And the rest of the para athletes could too it you would get on the spinal cord regeneration therapy.
 

Anubis

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from reading the article it does seem she is being screwed over for no reason. Yes people out there cheat the system but she seems to have a legit dissability.

"In London, Victoria was classified as between being a 5 and 6 in a system where 15 is nearly able-bodied. She swims with only her arms because she has significant upper-body impairment."
 

Veliko

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Might not be permanently paralyzed.

Yep, that's some BS. Should sue for discrimination.

It's not bullshit, it's just one of the unfortunate pitfalls when it comes to the classifications and requirements within disabled sports.

The whole point about requiring the athletes to be permanently disabled is so that you don't have, say, Usain Bolt breaking his little finger and then deciding to compete in the Paralympics due to him being disabled at the time.

That's obviously a far-fetched and ludicrous example, but it gives you an idea of why the rule exists.
 

JTsyo

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WTF kind of stupidity is that? They're excluding her because some day it might be possible that she might be able to regain the ability to use her legs? Hey, some day I might grow wings and fly! That's complete BS.

hmm shouldn't that logic work the other way too? Someday you might become paraplegic so you should be allowed to compete too.
 

highland145

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It's not bullshit, it's just one of the unfortunate pitfalls when it comes to the classifications and requirements within disabled sports.

The whole point about requiring the athletes to be permanently disabled is so that you don't have, say, Usain Bolt breaking his little finger and then deciding to compete in the Paralympics due to him being disabled at the time.

That's obviously a far-fetched and ludicrous example, but it gives you an idea of why the rule exists.
And common sense has left the building. If she is paralyzed today, she's paralyzed. Not like I can spend my future lottery winnings early. Like I posted above, a lot of them could regain use of their limbs as soon as zin gets on the cord regeneration therapy so only amputees should be able to compete. Right?

Any mention of what caused her paralysis and why they think she'll regain use?
 

Veliko

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And common sense has left the building. If she is paralyzed today, she's paralyzed. Not like I can spend my future lottery winnings early. Like I posted above, a lot of them could regain use of their limbs as soon as zin gets on the cord regeneration therapy so only amputees should be able to compete. Right?

Any mention of what caused her paralysis and why they think she'll regain use?

So you don't know anything about her condition, what caused it, or what her chances of recovery are, yet you are somehow certain that the ruling is wrong.
 

highland145

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So you don't know anything about her condition, what caused it, or what her chances of recovery are, yet you are somehow certain that the ruling is wrong.
The article I read somewhere else didn't say what the problem was. Didn't look at the OPs until now but that's beside the point. Address what I posted.
 

Veliko

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The article I read somewhere else didn't say what the problem was. Didn't look at the OPs until now but that's beside the point. Address what I posted.

I addressed your "if she's paralysed today, then she's paralysed" in my first post.

If the requirement is that the athletes have to have a permanent disability, then the ruling is fair if her disability isn't a permanent one.
 

Brovane

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I addressed your "if she's paralysed today, then she's paralysed" in my first post.

If the requirement is that the athletes have to have a permanent disability, then the ruling is fair if her disability isn't a permanent one.

The question is what is a permanent disability. After 7 years since she suffered from the disease her nero-logical function hasn't really changed. She remains paralyzed from the waist down. At some point would you say yes this is a permanent disability because the chance of recovery is very slim. Or does any chance of recovery of more function make it not a permanent disability?