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Parallels - Alternative OS's

I use it on my Mac with an XP virtual machine. It works exactly like VMWare did when I had it loaded in Linux, except VMplayer is free and Parallels isn't. Although Parallels I believe offers other things to help setup your VM whereas VMplayer is pretty barebones.

 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
It looks suspiciously like VMWare or VPC, not exactly a new concept.


It's pretty much EXACTLY like vmware. The key difference is that it's for MacOS on intel, were Vmware doesn't have a product for that platform.

And, of course, since it's for Mac it's very very very cool compared to other stuff. 😛

It makes doing virtualization on the Mac pretty simple and that's what it's good for. Run XP or any Linux/BSD thing you'd want.
 
And, of course, since it's for Mac it's very very very cool compared to other stuff.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It looks like it will run on Windows also... Same as VMWare except it supports macs. sigh. VMware is a more mature piece of software... if you are not running a mac I would recommend VMWare.

pcgeek11
 
I've been using Parallels on my XP rig for a while now, runs better than VMWare in my opinion on my aging Barton 2600+. I can run Ubuntu and a couple older MS OS's at the same time without skipping a beat.
 
Hmmmm ....... I got all excited about this, (Parallels), until I went to their site and read that you have to have a Mac with an "Intel processor". I have been thinking about buying an Intel Mac but my eMac G4 1.42GHz is only 6 months old and I just can't justify it. I have a Windows XP machine that I use for gaming so I guess there would really be no reason to have XP on my Mac other than for the novelty.
Does anyone with a Mac running XP on it have any problems playing games, (In XP that is)? I would definately go to one machine that could run both OS's if I could still play my games, (Doom 3, Quake 4, WOW and COD 2). I don't really care about any Windows apps ...... I can do anything on my Mac that I can do in XP except play games.
 
Originally posted by: Skitzer
Hmmmm ....... I got all excited about this, (Parallels), until I went to their site and read that you have to have a Mac with an "Intel processor". I have been thinking about buying an Intel Mac but my eMac G4 1.42GHz is only 6 months old and I just can't justify it. I have a Windows XP machine that I use for gaming so I guess there would really be no reason to have XP on my Mac other than for the novelty.
Does anyone with a Mac running XP on it have any problems playing games, (In XP that is)? I would definately go to one machine that could run both OS's if I could still play my games, (Doom 3, Quake 4, WOW and COD 2). I don't really care about any Windows apps ...... I can do anything on my Mac that I can do in XP except play games.

Playing games or doing anything processor or graphics card intensive inside Parallels VM is not a good idea. It's still emulation and it's still slow. Now if you install bootcamp and dual boot XP, that's a different story. I run Oblivion, F.E.A.R. and Call Of Duty 2 (XP version) just fine.
 
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: Skitzer
Hmmmm ....... I got all excited about this, (Parallels), until I went to their site and read that you have to have a Mac with an "Intel processor". I have been thinking about buying an Intel Mac but my eMac G4 1.42GHz is only 6 months old and I just can't justify it. I have a Windows XP machine that I use for gaming so I guess there would really be no reason to have XP on my Mac other than for the novelty.
Does anyone with a Mac running XP on it have any problems playing games, (In XP that is)? I would definately go to one machine that could run both OS's if I could still play my games, (Doom 3, Quake 4, WOW and COD 2). I don't really care about any Windows apps ...... I can do anything on my Mac that I can do in XP except play games.

Playing games or doing anything processor or graphics card intensive inside Parallels VM is not a good idea. It's still emulation and it's still slow. Now if you install bootcamp and dual boot XP, that's a different story. I run Oblivion, F.E.A.R. and Call Of Duty 2 (XP version) just fine.

Just the answer I was looking for
 
Short answer to your gaming question: you will want to dual boot Mac OS X / Windows XP if you want to use your Intel Mac for gaming.

Long answer: Apple's Bootcamp utility will help you get WinXP installed, it resizes your existing partition to make room for a new WinXP partition and even burns a CD of drivers for you. Most importantly, you will get full native WinXP performance and full native ATI drivers for your Intel Mac's X1600 or GMA950 graphics.

Parallels, on the other hand, emulates the graphics hardware and will be very slow for anything requiring 3D. Parallels does have very fast CPU performance, thanks to the Intel VT-x instructions, so it's great for most applications, but it's slow on the graphics/display side of things.
 
Originally posted by: halfadder
Parallels, on the other hand, emulates the graphics hardware and will be very slow for anything requiring 3D. Parallels does have very fast CPU performance, thanks to the Intel VT-x instructions, so it's great for most applications, but it's slow on the graphics/display side of things.

Which Intel CPUs support the VT-x instructions? VMware doesn't use these? Is AMD coming out with anything similar?
 
I believe the Core Duos and newest P4s have VT-x. I know the CoreDuo in my MacBookPro supports it.

I have no idea of the status of VMware and VT-x, I don't use VMware.

I would imagine AMD will do something similar, they generally stay very competitive.
 
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: Skitzer
Hmmmm ....... I got all excited about this, (Parallels), until I went to their site and read that you have to have a Mac with an "Intel processor". I have been thinking about buying an Intel Mac but my eMac G4 1.42GHz is only 6 months old and I just can't justify it. I have a Windows XP machine that I use for gaming so I guess there would really be no reason to have XP on my Mac other than for the novelty.
Does anyone with a Mac running XP on it have any problems playing games, (In XP that is)? I would definately go to one machine that could run both OS's if I could still play my games, (Doom 3, Quake 4, WOW and COD 2). I don't really care about any Windows apps ...... I can do anything on my Mac that I can do in XP except play games.

Playing games or doing anything processor or graphics card intensive inside Parallels VM is not a good idea. It's still emulation and it's still slow. Now if you install bootcamp and dual boot XP, that's a different story. I run Oblivion, F.E.A.R. and Call Of Duty 2 (XP version) just fine.

I thought Parallels VM was using the Virtualization features of Intel's Core Duo processors, and thus had near full performance in everything, except games since it doesn't support directx.

Am2 Athlons have the same feature I believe, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it show up in the Opterons as well.
 
All AM2 Athlons have the virtualization features. I don't think they have a spiffy codeword for it (used to be called Pacifica, but not any more), they just call it "AMD Virtualization."
 
Originally posted by: dclive
Benchmarks suggest about 33% performance drop (ie 66% of the performance of the real thing, like BootCamp...)

http://www.macworld.com/2006/06/reviews/parallels/index.php

I've seen reviews of Parallels that show it at equal or less performance, depending on the task, but it generally outperformed VMWare by quite a bit.

Oh, and bootcamp is full speed since it's a real install of XP, however the Apple X1600 graphics chips are lower clocked than the PC variants and thus don't perform as well.
 
I wrote that poorly.

Rephrased, it is: Benchmarks suggest about 33% performance drop compared with Bootcamp, which runs at essentially the same speed as XP does on similar generic PC hardware.

In other words, the performance of the real thing is essentially similar to Bootcamp's speed. Parallel's is 66% as fast as Bootcamp, and 66% as fast as the real thing.

Clear as mud? 🙂
 
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